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Well Mr Swan has told us that under his modelling with a carbon tax, employment will grow, gross national income will grow and if he had been pressed, no doubt he would have told us the dahlias would grow and Pinocchio would have been truly excited.
 
In his ivory tower, assumptionless modelling is self serving wonder and light.
 
The other day I was reading modelling by government economists lauding the fact that a Doha trade agreement would lead to a “substantial” rise in world output of 0.1 per cent.1 Now we learn from the Treasurer that actually a change in output of 0.1 per cent due to a carbon tax is only modest. It would seem that economists choose the wrapping depending on what they think of the package inside.
 
In amongst Mr Swan’s lunch time thrashing around, we are told that China is driven by a moral imperative to reduce emissions and we should catch up and be like China. So what is all that black stuff that we sell them that is propping up Mr Swan’s budget figures?
 
Effusive would be a very kind word to describe Mr Swan’s speech. It was trust me this will not hurt a bit, taxes are good for you especially ones that can cool the planet, oh do not look at me like that I have a model that can prove it.     
 
1 ABARE found in a paper titled "Increasing benefits to Australia from WTO agricultural trade liberalization":
"The global gains in GNP amount to US$47 billion, about 0.1 per cent of base levels in 2010."
The abstract of the paper reports these findings as:
"In this paper it is shown that global benefits from agricultural trade liberalisation are substantial."
 
 
 
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# Lorikeet
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:51 PM
In one poll I looked at yesterday, 69% of Australians were opposed to a Carbon Tax. In another, 86% were opposed.

Labor is clearly ignoring the mandate of the people which is:

"THE ANSWER IS NO TO A TAX ON AIR!!!"

I don't think Wayne Swan could push up a dahlia even if he died.

The "gross national income" he thinks will grow with a carbon tax in place, must be that of a third world nation.

Catch up with China? Everyone knows they are already puffing the largest, blackest clouds of smoke while paying their people peasant wages.

The main aim of a Carbon Tax is to send all of the western nations broke.

All of the moderately well off people from other nations are being sent here in boats and planes to be fleeced along with the rest of us. Labor's 5-for-1 refugee policy will also aid in the monumental push to shear as many people as possible.

Surely everyone knows by now that Oxfam has its hand out and is angrily demanding a $17 billion a year contribution for the third world. This will be subtracted from everyone's superannuation holdings, bumped up with a Tax on Air, along with the theft of the remaining 6% of our manufacturing industries.

Terms such as "corporate governance" and "wealth redistribution" are now being used in stock market reports and political programs on the ABC.

Wake up, Australia!

# terry jorgensen
Friday, June 10, 2011 8:38 AM
will a carbon tax reduce the income of big business and thus reduce the income tax they would pay thus causing a $1B+ black hole in overall tax collected
# Lorikeet
Friday, June 10, 2011 4:05 PM
I'm not sure if the government would suffer a loss of revenue due to a Carbon Tax, but we can be certain that the corporates would charge us far more to compensate for any such loss, regardless of whether or not it actually occurred!

If there is a double whammy to government coffers, any compensatory increases to pensions (if paid at all) would then deplete government coffers further, possibly creating an even worse triple whammy.

This is just the next step in the continuum to empower corporates in conjunction with the third world. Corporates are already enormous indirect tax collectors, parasiting upon what used to be the people's income producing assets and utilities. This is part of the reason there is no money to build hospitals and schools.

From 1 July 2011, the Macquarie Bank will be collecting traffic fines across Australia. No surprises there!

The cancellation of live beef exports to Indonesia is further evidence of the government's desire to kneecap our economy and remove protein foods from everyone's diets.

Both government and corporations intend to empty our wallets by multiple means, at the same time as taking away our national sovereignty and the democratic processes on which it is based.

Welcome to a third world neo-communist existence!

# Fred
Monday, June 13, 2011 9:10 AM
"A vote against the Carbon Tax is vote against "The Clean Air Act."
# Fred
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:03 AM
Lorikeet We are already paying a tax on the air that we breath its call "The Clean Air Act."
"A vote against the Carbon Tax is vote against "The Clean Air Act."
# Lorikeet
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:21 AM
That's stupid, Fred. Carbon dioxide is a clean gas which is essential to life.

A tax on air is aimed at severing the hip pocket nerve of all who live in the western world.

If you really wanted to make the air cleaner (reduce pollution) you would be banging hard on the door of Parliament House and demanding the return of our manufacturing industries to Australian soil.

This would vastly reduce the amount of pollution being generated in China, India and other third world nations.

Why should Australians pay tax on their polluted air?? Especially when the source of pollution is not a harmless gas such as CO2!
# Lorikeet
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:43 PM
But Fred, don't you think one tax on air is more than sufficient? Perhaps even bloody ridiculous?

Do you want to pay once, twice or even 20 times then?

Do you want our livestock industries completely wiped out when graziers are forced to pay a Burping and Flatulence Tax?

How about a Ground Pounding and Cowpat Tax?

# Fred
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:53 PM
Lorikeet
you do relies we are talking about power station that create CO2 plus other nasty byproduct. and are you against The clean air act when you say.
"A tax on air is aimed at severing the hip pocket nerve of all who live in the western world."
"A vote against the Carbon Tax is vote against "The Clean Air Act."
# Lorikeet
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:27 PM
Fred:

You said yourself that a vote against the Carbon Tax is a vote against the Clean Air Act. How could that be true?

You said we already had a Clean Air Act with an applicable tax. We don't need 2 separate taxes, or however many the government might decide to apply.

If the government was fair dinkum about cleaning up what gets pumped into the atmosphere by chimneys, why am I the only person in the world wide blogosphere who has suggested putting vacu-vortex tubes on chimneys?

CO2 is clean and green. Other nasty by-products are not the reason the government wants to impose a Carbon Tax.

Think about this also:

If the government was fair dinkum about ending world wide starvation, why would I be the only person I know of who has given some excellent ideas for recycling green waste from fruit and vegetables into stock feed? This would negate the need to feed grain to livestock and may be more cost effective as well. It would also give farmers a sideline income, especially if they formed a co-operative to do it.
# Fred
Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:42 PM
Lorikeet this campaign used by the media and others against the carbon tax is the same campaign they used against the clean air act,
Clean air act stage1 Carbon tax stage 2
# Lorikeet
Friday, June 17, 2011 10:13 AM
Then Fred, can you please tell us why you think we should be charged multiple taxes on air?

We already know that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
# Fred
Friday, June 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Lorikeet I don:t except these type of question to be asked if you live through those time. Remember smog and acid rain we don;t hear much about them these day do we except for china the clean air act solve those problem Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and is toxic in higher concentrations: and when I say "A vote against the Carbon Tax is vote against "The Clean Air Act." its because of what happen recently in the USA
# Lorikeet
Monday, June 20, 2011 6:41 PM
What happened in the USA, Fred? Can you please tell us.

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