Oh, I think the government just wants to get farmers off the land so transnational corporations can take over. If someone dies here and there along the way, it won't worry them very much at all.

They just want to get Asians on visas onto the land and pay them slave wages to produce livestock and food. Then most of the end product will go back to China via privatised rail and port.

This is what happens when the major parties want to belong to the Chinawealth of Nations.

Mr Spencer would be wise to come down immediately from his perch and start ringing their gongs, instead of giving up the ghost.

A great idea . Well done . I managed NVR for nearly 20yrs on a regional basis in Victoria before my collegues took the job off me ( not because we respeted it but because it was imposed on us) . The whole thing is a mess and should be completely reviewed in biodiversity framework too that is better framed . NVRs got a lot worse / paper mad/ pointless tree preservation in last few years because the non responsible authorities in Vic have been allowed to try and palm the dirty work onto local Council s. No way the current focus should stay !

Good on ya Pete . The nutters in charge group are so out of touch they give money to those who should be fined ,and stop things they should encourage. Like sequestration( I might be slow, but i do know what i mean )
Like bulls at a gate they presume to know whats good for us and will push for it ,even though the cows clearly know when when to fart and belch and would be mad to listen to the noisy nonsense dummies .If the stupid bulls got their way, all the animals would be dead.

No wonder people are going mad - the govt is driving us mad !

All this trading of individual rural people's rights would be understandable if it actually did some good. Labor is running a lights and mirrors campaign on carbon and even they don't care who pays what and why, because WE do .
What arrogant and ignorant hypocrites Rudds green around the gills group are . They take these carbon credits off farmers instead of the gas gussling RV's in the city .
Rudds religious left offer some new dopey dreaming nonsense about soil sequestration compensation when it won't work AND when the harvesting and utilization of the existing timber could!!
Rudds group are so out of touch they give money to those who should be fined and stop things they should encourage.
The greatest evil is done by those who presume to know whats good for us, and the country, when they clearly couldn't convince anyone when its morally imperative to fart.

This is an appalling story. Ther inhumane indifference to the plight of Mr Spencer and other farmers is just like Communist Russia. The Labor Govt and PM Rudd do not care two hoots about Mr Spencer. If he dies of starvation they will just shrug their shoulders and say bad luck. The greed and callousness is beyond belief in the "lucky country' If he was a Tamil Tiger of dubious origins the Govt would be bending over backwards to bribe them. Mr Spencer maybe should have his Tower of Hope in the heart of Sydney where he is in full view of the Australian media. I pray for him to
live again in peace and prosperity. The Govt is not going to do anything but maybe the people will. Socialist governments was farmers off the land because they are self starts and do not want handouts, therefore they are a threat. Stalin killed $35million Russians simply because they disagreed with him. Australians be warned! This could happen here unless you fully support the Opposition as they value the people.

Barnaby, good on you for going out to Peter Spencer and taking up the issue.

However with respect, you are not understanding how the Commonwealth is implicated.

1. The NSW Native Vegetation Act in effect confiscates the farmers' property, namely, the use-rights which are part of the equity, and the control of which the legislation transfers to government-delegated bodies.

2. If the Commonwealth had passed the Act, it would have been liable to pay 'just terms' compensation for the acquisition of property, under the Australian Constitution: Section 51 Legislative Powers of Parliament (xxxi) "the acquisition of property on just terms from any ... person..."

3. But the Commonwealth had already decided to meet its Kyoto Protocol targets by taking farmers property rights, rather than coal mines etc. because the farmers were a soft target.

4. So the Commonwealth got the State to do the dirty work of actually confiscating farmers' property rights, which was done through the NVA! For which, the Commonwealth paid NSW $1.2 billion, which they got from the sale of Telstra.

5. As the State passed the law that took the property rights, they were not liable to pay compensation, because the State constitution has no such provision, and their ordinary State legislation requiring just terms for State-acquired property, they simply overrode.

6. Thus if Mr Spencer sues the Commonwealth, who actually sponsored the taking of property, who benefitted from it, and who are constitutionally liable to pay compensation, they plead that it's all a State matter.

7. But if he sues the State, who actually did the deed, they plead that there is no constitutional right to compensation.

8. When he goes to sue the Commonwealth, they move to strike out the action as not disclosing a cause, and the High Court won't let him admit the evidence which shows that the Commonwealth did benefit.

That is what is on the piece of paper that Mr Spencer threw down from his tower to you Barnaby.

Thus what the Commonwealth has done is as devious as it is appaling, and they now compound the offence by saying it's all a State matter.

Barnaby, it's not just the injustice to Mr Spencer and all farmers. This issue concerns the very possibility of limited government and a free society.

Go You Good Thing, Go!

Name and fight the greens for what they are - totalitarians fascists - and you will win the election.

This is just outrageous. I believe in nature corridors. But if the government thinks they are so damned important they've got to do two things.

1. Close down barely necessary government departments in order to run a healthy surplus.

2. Start slowly buying the land necessary for the nature corridors out of that surplus.

Instead they are openly victimising people who the public service appears to be in contempt of. An attack on anyones property rights is an attack on all our property rights. And if we are to one day reclaim the good life and the decent society, it is precisely the property rights of sole traders, businesses that are still run by their founders, and the farmers that we have to respect.

We've got to stop this victimisation outright and now. This is the same victimisation that got all those Victorians killed in that holocaust. Including Bryan Naylor. This is the self-same arrogance and victimisation that killed Bryan Naylor and his wife. The Naylor's were a couple who looked forward to an enviable retirement. And yet the collective abuse of the individuals right .... not the corporate right but the individuals right ..... to control absolutely his own property, well this is what cut that retirement short, and destroyed many people less well off as well.

Only our reliance on a sort of Frankenstein capitalism that emphasizes the international corporate giant as the standard for business activity, could have made us so flippant to property rights of individuals, in this way. We have two sides of the economics profession that are really just the representatives of blood-sucker-central on the left, and blood-sucker-centrals loyal opposition, on the right.
And neither side has any understanding of the centrality of property rights in economic life.

Rather they think property rights amounts to divying up all strategic resources and natural assets in giant deep-pocket auctions. Thats the modern Australian economists understanding of what constitutes property rights.

They want everything sold off in auctions that only massive corporates, made up of bigshots and crony's, dealing within an environment wherein the company is becoming more and more an extension of government..... This is what our economists think property rights are about.

They figure after the auction property rights involves Peking being free to get itself a 51% interest in the company that controls all these assets is what property rights is all about. Our economists think this entirely artificial and destructive scenario is what property rights is about. To them the shares represent property rights. And they call the whole dysfunctional scenario "free trade"

But property rights is about Peter Spence having the total right to do whatever he wants to do with his land held at freehold. And its not anyones business so long as his activities don't spill over his fences.

He must be saved. And this tyranny must be ended.

This should be on our news every day and on the world news as well.

Mary,

Unfortunately, I have discovered over the past few weekes that very few people have heard about Mr Spencer or "the land grab" by the state and federal governments re seizure of his land.
Please take note of the "Media Gag" on any news item harmfull to the government at present.
This is taking place on a daily basis..and will get worse in 2010.
The ABC is the main offender..followed by any media outlet controlled by Rupert Murdoch.
What can people do about it is the real problem ?...so people like Mr Spencer's protest is not in vain.
Ive made it my business to inform, friends,relatives, work colleagues and anyone else in conversation re political agendas ,ETS,environmental issues and plight of rural people in general.
If we dont pass on as much information as possible to others the majority will be none the wiser..and the governments control, that much easier to enforce.

Dear Barnaby Joyce,
Is there anything that you, or the National Party, or the Coalition can do in Parliament, to right the wrong being done to Peter Spencer ?
Can you bring on a debate on the injustices being done to Farmers because of the unjust laws?
Can Public Servants be brought to book for infringing on Farmer's rights simply because it is pandering to Politician's ego?
Who decided to annex Peter Spencer's land?
Name him/her.

Dear Barnaby Joyce,
Is there anything that you, or the National Party, or the Coalition can do in Parliament, to right the wrong being done to Peter Spencer ?
Can you bring on a debate on the injustices being done to Farmers because of the unjust laws?
Can Public Servants be brought to book for infringing on Farmer's rights simply because it is pandering to Politician's ego?
Who decided to annex Peter Spencer's land?
Name him/her.

Please support this man Peter Spencer for his sake and the sake of all us Australians you did a great on the climate change and now we Australians want something done about this and I for one want to vote next time for the government who will look after all Australians

The solution to this problem is simple. At all future State and Federal elections, put all of the parties and individuals pushing Climate Change or a Green Agenda at the bottom of the voting order.

Put The Greens last, Labor second last, Liberals third last and Australian Democrats fourth last. Check out all of the other candidates to see if they need to go down towards the bottom as well.

Then vote for all of the other parties and individuals according to their level of patriotism, including LACK OF SUPPORT for Global Governance and control by huge corporations.

MR BARNABY JOYCE,
WE ARE VERY DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE WAY THE FEDERAL LABOUR GOVERNMENT IS MANAGING THE PETER SPENCER CASE. THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT IS TURNING THEIR BACK ON AUSTRALIAN FARMERS WITH THIS NATIVE VEGETATION LAWS,(CARBON CREDITS) AND WHY IS THE FEDERAL LABOUR GOVENMENT POURING MONEY INTO OVER SEAS COUNTRIES, AND ENCOURAGING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
RETIRED FARMERS FROM THE NORTHERN TABLELANDS.
TERRY AND SHARYN COX

Please speak to Mr Spencer ASAP - Than change all these laws that have been passed to take farmers lively hoods away.

this is a disgraceful situation, that the govt. of this country can impose this type of legistation. I have just printed out a report when this damm "Briglow Corp." was set up, and I am very unhappy that the National party was responsible for presenting this change of our constitution, and NO ONE in the then Qld govt. objected to the changes, I am appalled. As a member of LNP this was a huge dissappointment. The Native Vegation Laws that are acted on by the NSW govt. are they part of this Briglow Corp. Act?????
I have missed you on radio this morning but would like to see on your site where you sit with this Briglow Corp. This is the beginning of the Beatie Govt. also making all the changes that enabled him to proceed with all the Council amalgamations, and completely cut the communities voice out and ignored all protests. What the bloodly hell can the ordinary person do to stop this madness, 1st step is to get the LNP elected in Qld at the next election, but then we need strong people to support Laurence and his party, and start process again to rid us of all the corruption that still exists in all Govt. departments. HELP!!!!!

concerned about peter spencer plight and whats behind it ?

Thank you Barnaby Joyce for standing up for the farmers and the rights of all Australians. Peter Spencer has made a stand and a lot of Australians are now listening I hope we have done enough to stop him from dying. Barnaby don't ever stop being who you are, we need you to speak the truth, you are the only the politician who says it's like it is.

Senator Joyce, we have been following the plight of Mr Spencer with great concern and dismay. Listening to comments on the radio and also the internet could you tell us if you have heard of Brigalow Corporation and the changes made to the constitution of Qld 2001, removing Qld from the Federation and introducing by stealth a republic. Qld now being a Corporation. Woud you google Brigalow Corp., and confirm what Mr Beattie
has done without referenda or the knowledge of the Qld people.
What has happened to Mr Spencer seems to be a reflection to what is happening in Qld and perhaps WA. We are most concerned at the Media blackout on these most important situations.
Thank You
Mrs Judy Walker
53 Mayne Street,
Gulgong 2852
NSW

Keep up the fight , Barnaby and thank you to Justin Jefferson for an excellent explanation of this issue. It helped me greatly. GOD HELP AUSTRALIA!!

WHY DOES THE PRIME MINISTER NOT ALLOW HIS MINISTERS TO DISCUSS PETER SPENCER'S POSITION, YET HE BEFRIENDED BERNIE BANTON - ANOTHER UNFORTUNATE VICTIM OF CORPORATE GREED?
IF PRIME MINISTETR RUDD WAS TO REQUEST THE FULL DETAILS OF MR SPENCER'S CASE TO BE MADE KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC, THEY WOULD SURELY VOTE IN FAVOUR OF THE LONGEVITY OF THE FARMING BACKBONE OF AUSTRALIA AND NOT THE INTENTIONAL DESTRUCTION OF IT FOR THE SAKE OF INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL PROTOCOLS.
GIVE THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA A FAIR GO AND STOP HIDING BEHIND LABOUR PARTY POLITICES WHICH IF NEVER CHALLENGED, BREED WEAK LEADERS.

Dear Alana, and Barnaby,

It is with delight that I write to thank you for your support of Peter Spencer, the farmer on the hunger strike trying to get justice for all the farmers bearing the brunt of our signing at Kyoto. I believe that the Australian public, which is the beneficiary of their sacrifice, can and should compensate the farmers, justly and generously. By all accounts we are a wealthy and certainly a well-fed and well-serviced country, and it seems the government of the day understands the value of the farmers’ lands, which is why they have said they will not pay them out----it would cost too much! Either their sacrifice is to save the planet or it is not. If not, why sacrifice them? If so, their sacrifice is priceless and why be cheapskatish about it? Or resort to outright theft? It must be an extra reason for outrage to know that money saved will go to the major polluters!

One politician----the name I didn’t catch----although I think Mark Kelly said something similar, is that “This is a matter for the courts”. Of course, Peter has tried through the courts, and the government lawyers have had many adjournments or attempts to strike the case out. Having made it to the High Court, the case has been put aside “for the time being”. We should be glad Peter is on a hunger strike and has not already gone the way of many other desperately affected farmers with a bullet to his own head.

Mainly, though, I wish to thank you for following the instructions of Jesus Christ, the most influential man of all time, whose instruction was very clear-----“Love your neighbour as yourself” and “Look after my flock----love them, just as I have loved you.” You have shown admirable compassion to a fellow human. Well done!!

Sincerely,

Judy Wand.

Its time we started in Australia a campaign such as this. Let Krudd Know what we the people of Australia want and dont want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=_tKKzdPzUZM

This native vegetation act has caused more grief than anyone could imagine. We are disabled pensioners, and bought a 5 acre rural zoned property for a peaceful existence. Because of the bushfire regulations, we cleared 2 acres, where we want to build our house. We have been accused of illegal clearing, by the environment, climate change and water dept, and they have prevented us burning the winrows, and getting our site ready to build on, as it's ' evidence'. We cant afford legal help, so must just cop it sweet, and accept whatever punishment dealt out; it could be anything from a fine, to goal, we were told (3 days before xmas). Not once have we received anything in writing, we've been read our rights, and have a taped interview, but still no paperwork, or idea of what it is we're in trouble for. We are renting while trying to build, and our finances are severely strained by this legislature. Can anyone help?? They are now talking about making us replant 2 acres, which will endanger us, and our neighbors from fires. When we cleared, our land was mostly regrowth, old stumps, and 6 metre high lantana. They wont accept our word on this and have said we cleared protected old growth forest. They even refused to look at a DVD we have, of the land before we cleared. Believe it or not, we've been made to feel like environmental terrorists, when our property actually adjoins a huge State Forest !! What is this flamin country coming to? M. and C. Horton

C & M Horton:

I suggest you take your footage to the media, and ask them for support.

Then maybe more people will come to realise what a colossal farce the whole Climate Change agenda is.

It appears that there are different rules for different people and situations. I can understand the Government not wanting to be hassled by anyone and everyone who might decided to go on a hunger strike over any perceived hurt or disagreement but in Mr Spencer's case, he is not selfishly demanding for himself but standing up for the situation of many farmers who have been used 'in the best interests of the nation'. Mr Rudd, please have the decency to look into the matter yourself and not just rely on advisers. Legislated land management may have given the required figures for our country to meet the Kyoto targets but did anyone calculate the long term damage of mismanaged land?

Rapidshare:

Trust me, the government doesn't give a rat's backside about land management.

They just want to remove farmers from their land so global corporations can take over. Then they will use cheap Asian labour to maximise their profits, ship most of the food and mineral wealth out of the country via privatised rail and port. Then Australians will be left to pay huge sums of money for the remaining crumbs.

In the future we can expect to pay huge amounts for the basics of human life including food, water, electricity, gas, fuel and carbon (atmospheric breathing tax).

I suggest you check out the following link, which should leave you in no doubt as to where Australia is heading:

General Agreement on Trade & Services (GATS)

http://aftinet.org.au/papers/ranald1.html