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In Senate Economics Estimates Senator Joyce asked the CSIRO the million dollar question, or should that be the hundred billion dollar question, “Will the Australian Emissions Trading Scheme change the temperature of the globe?”
The answer confirmed my worst fears in that I could not get the answer “Yes”. I was told it would depend on global factors of course! There will be no global factors if the rest of the world is not part of a global scheme. The CSIRO was sensibly and more inclined to tell me that my question was a policy issue. That is correct as it lacks scientific credibility that there will be any discernable change in the climate by reason of an Australian ETS. Later during the Committe hearing,  the chief scientist said there would be a change in the climate by way of an Australian Emissions Trading Scheme. She also acknowledged there would be a change in the climate if I personally parked my car in the garage.
That is to say an indiscernible change, apart from the fact that the process involved in the most absurd form of minutia, follows the same mathematics as the overall equation of climate change.
The Australian Emissions Trading Scheme is merely a policy, a political statement, a gesture. The cost to the Australian citizen of this massive new tax associated with it, is very real however.
If you are involved in the emission of carbon, which might be from anything as obscure as ironing your clothes, cooking dinner, putting fertiliser on your field or pouring a concrete slab for your house, you will pay the tax. You may not see it but you will definitely pay it.
The removal of wealth from your life and transferred to the Treasury will be discernable, with the commission going to stock brokers and bankers on the way through.
I have to query, is the purpose of the Emissions Trading Scheme to cool the planet, which clearly it will not do, or is it to prop up a parlous state of our Government finances? The more I hear, the more I am inclined to the latter. 
Australians will deliver tens of billions of dollars to the Treasury by reason of this tax in the near future.
There is far more empirical evidence in what it will cost you, the resident of Australia, than any scientific evidence that an emissions scheme will do anything for the climate. 
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# Charlie Felice
Friday, October 23, 2009 9:00 AM
Good on you Barnaby! It about time somebody in Parliament speaks out! The ETS is mearly a tax! I hope that the Coalition will mininize the burden with its amendments.

Best regards

Charlie
# Bob Vangrin
Friday, October 23, 2009 12:50 PM
I think that this article may make ETS irrelivant:

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Total Solar Irradiance - Global warming, Measuring solar irradiance
Total solar irradiance is defined as the amount of radiant energy emitted by the Sun over all wavelengths that fall each second on 11 sq ft (1 sq m) outside the earth's atmosphere.

By way of further definition, irradiance is defined as the amount of electromagnetic energy incident on a surface per unit time per unit area. Solar refers to electromagnetic radiation in the spectral range of approximately 1-9 ft (0.30-3 m), where the shortest wavelengths are in the ultraviolet region of the spectrum, the intermediate wavelengths in the visible region, and the longer wavelengths are in the near infrared. Total means that the solar flux has been integrated over all wavelengths to include the contributions from ultraviolet, visible, and infrared radiation.

By convention, the surface features of the Sun are classified into three regions: the photosphere, the chromosphere, and the corona. The photosphere corresponds to the bright region normally visible to the naked eye. About 3,100 mi (5,000 km) above the photosphere lies the chromosphere, from which short-lived, needle-like projections may extend upward for several thousands of kilometers. The corona is the outermost layer of the Sun; this region extends into the region of the planets. Most of the surface features of the Sun lie within the photosphere, though a few extend into the chromosphere or even the corona.

The average amount of energy from the Sun per unit area that reaches the upper regions of the earth's atmosphere is known as the solar constant; its value is approximately 1,367 watts per square meter. As earth-based measurements of this quantity are of doubtful accuracy due to variations in the earth's atmosphere, scientists have come to rely on satellites to make these measurements.

Although referred to as the solar constant, this quantity actually has been found to vary since careful measurements started being made in 1978. In 1980, a satellite-based measurement yielded the value of 1,368.2 watts per square meter. Over the next few years, the value was found to decrease by about 0.04% per year. Such variations have now been linked to several physical processes known to occur in the Sun's interior, as will be described below.

From the earth, it is only possible to observe the radiant energy emitted by the Sun in the direction of our planet; this quantity is referred to as the solar irradiance. This radiant solar energy is known to influence the earth's weather and climate, although the exact relationships between solar irradiance and long-term climatological changes, such as global warming, are not well understood.

The total radiant energy emitted from the Sun in all directions is a quantity known as solar luminosity. The luminosity of the Sun has been estimated to be 3.8478 x 1026 watts. Some scientists believe that long-term variations in the solar luminosity may be a better correlate to environmental conditions on Earth than solar irradiance, including global warming. Variations in solar luminosity are also of interest to scientists who wish to gain a better understanding of stellar rotation, convection, and magnetism.

Because short-term variations of certain regions of the solar spectrum may not accurately reflect changes in the true luminosity of the Sun, measurements of total solar irradiance, which by definition take into account the solar flux contributions over all wavelengths, provide a better representation of the total luminosity of the Sun.

Short-term variations in solar irradiation vary significantly with the position of the observer, so such variations may not provide a very accurate picture of changes in the solar luminosity. But the total solar irradiance at any given position gives a better representation because it includes contributions over the spectrum of wavelengths represented in the solar radiation.

Variations in the solar irradiance are at a level that can be detected by ground-based astronomical measurements of light. Such variations have been found to be about 0.1% of the average solar irradiance. Starting in 1978, space-based instruments aboard the Nimbus 7, Solar Maximum Mission, and other satellites began making the sort of measurements (reproducible to within a few parts per million each year) that allowed scientists to acquire a better understanding of variations in the total solar irradiance.

Variations in solar irradiance have been attributed to the following solar phenomena: oscillations, granulation, sunspots, faculae, and solar cycle.

Oscillations, which cause variations in the solar irradiance lasting about five minutes, arise from the action of resonant waves trapped in the Sun's interior. At any given time, there are tens of millions of frequencies represented by the resonant waves, but only certain oscillations contribute to variations in the solar constant.

Granulation, which produces solar irradiance variations lasting about 10 minutes, is closely related to the convective energy flow in the outer part of the Sun's interior. To the observer on Earth, the surface of the Sun appears to be made up of finely divided regions known as granules, each from 311-1,864 mi (500-3000 km) across, separated by dark regions. Each of these granules makes its appearance for about 10 minutes and then disappears. Granulation apparently results from convection effects that appear to cease several hundred kilometers below the visible surface, but in fact extend out into the photosphere, i.e., the region of the Sun visible to the naked eye. These granules are believed to be the centers of rising convection cells.

Sunspots give rise to variations that may last for several days, and sometimes as long as 200 days. They actually correspond to regions of intense magnetic activity where the solar atmosphere is slightly cooler than the surroundings. Sunspots appear as dark regions on the Sun's surface to observers on Earth. They are formed when the magnetic field lines just below the Sun's surface become twisted, and then poke though the solar photosphere. Solar irradiance measurements have also shown that the presence of large groups of sunspots on the Sun's surface produce dips ranging in amplitude from 0.1-0.25% of the solar constant. This reduction in the total solar irradiance has been attributed both to the presence of these sunspots and to the temporary storage of solar energy over times longer than the sunspot's lifetime. Another key observation has been that the largest decreases in total solar irradiance frequently coincide with the formation of newly formed active regions associated with large sunspots, or with rapidly evolving, complex sunspots. Sunspots are especially noteworthy for their 11-year activity cycle.

Faculae, producing variations that may last for tens of days, are bright regions in the photosphere where high-temperature interior regions of the Sun radiate energy. They tend to congregate in bright regions near sunspots, forming solar active regions. Faculae, which have sizes on the order of 620 mi (1000 km) or less, appear to be tube-like regions defined by magnetic field lines. These regions are less dense than surrounding areas. Because radiation from hotter layers below the photosphere can leak through the walls of the faculae, an atmosphere is produced that appears hotter, and brighter, than others.

The solar cycle is responsible for variations in the solar irradiance that have a period of about 11 years. This 11-year activity cycle of sunspot frequency is actually half of a 22-year magnetic cycle, which arises from the reversal of the poles of the Sun's magnetic field. From one activity cycle to the next, the north magnetic pole becomes the south magnetic pole, and vice versa. Solar luminosity has been found to achieve a maximum value at the very time that sunspot activity is highest during the 11-year sunspot cycle. Scientists have confirmed the length of the solar cycle by examining tree rings for variations in deuterium-to-hydrogen ratios. This ratio is temperature-dependent because deuterium molecules, which are a heavy form of the hydrogen molecule, are less mobile than the lighter hydrogen molecules, and therefore less responsive to thermal motion induced by increases in the solar irradiance.

Surprisingly, the Sun's rotation, with a rotational period of about 27 days, does not give rise to significant variations in the total solar irradiance. This is because its effects are overridden by the contributions of sunspots and faculae.



Global warming
Scientists have speculated that long-term solar irradiance variations might contribute to global warming over decades or hundreds of years. More recently, there has been speculation that changes in total solar irradiation have amplified the greenhouse effect, i.e., the retention of solar radiation and gradual warming of the earth's atmosphere. Some of these changes, particularly small shifts in the length of the activity cycle, seem to correlate rather closely with climatic conditions in pre- and post industrial times. Whether variations in solar irradiance can account for a substantial fraction of global warming over the past 150 years, however, remains a highly controversial point of scientific discussion.

Some researchers are convinced solar irradiance has increased between 1986-1996 (the years of the twentieth century's last two solar minima) and this increase is consistent with the conclusion that long term solar irradiance changes are occurring. But other scientists disagree, citing data inconsistent with such a conclusion. In particular, they have reported that solar irradiance was at similar levels in the years 1986 and 1996, but the global surface temperature of Earth had increased by about 0.2°C during the same decade. Although researchers disagree about whether recent changes in the total solar irradiance can account for global warming between 1986-1996, most agree that long-term solar irradiance measurements will help elucidate the role the Sun actually plays in driving global climate changes.



Read more: http://science.jrank.org/pages/6875/Total-Solar-Irradiance.html#ixzz0UitoGtEy

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# Barbara Taylor
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:27 AM
Dear Mr.Joyce
Please help us to stop this ETS, it will ruin this country, and you are one of the few that is thinking of australia,s interest.
Also stop foriegn donations, and put the money into australia, our hospitals, roads are a mess, we need more dams for water,
Please help save this country from the lunatics that are just thinking of what they can get in perks
Save Australia for my grandchilden thank You
Barbara Taylor
# DOREEN
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:28 PM
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DATA, OTHER THAN THE ONE ABOVE REGARDING THE SUN'S COMPLEXITY,IN RELATION TO ANY POSSIBLE SHIFT IN OUR EARTH'S AXIS, AND/OR THE SCIENTISTS CURRENTLY "DRILLING ICE BORES' IN OUR POLAR CAPS AT INCREDIBLE DEPTHS, TO PROVE OUR PLANET IS MERELY ON ITS HISTORICALY "CYCLIC PATH"...?
# DOREEN
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:28 PM
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DATA, OTHER THAN THE ONE ABOVE REGARDING THE SUN'S COMPLEXITY,IN RELATION TO ANY POSSIBLE SHIFT IN OUR EARTH'S AXIS, AND/OR THE SCIENTISTS CURRENTLY "DRILLING ICE BORES' IN OUR POLAR CAPS AT INCREDIBLE DEPTHS, TO PROVE OUR PLANET IS MERELY ON ITS HISTORICALY "CYCLIC PATH"...?
Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:34 PM
From the earth, it is only possible to observe the radiant energy emitted by the Sun in the direction of our planet; this quantity is referred to as the solar irradiance. This radiant solar energy is known to influence the earth's weather and climate, although the exact relationships between solar irradiance and long-term climatological changes, such as global warming, are not well understood.

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