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Colleagues. I was hoping we could do it a bit later on because everybody leaves and you can say whatever you like. That’s very entertaining and very dangerous.

Yesterday Nige gave a speech and he was talking about relationships. I was thinking about that last night. I was thinking, relationships, there’s two things you have to have. You have to be positive. If you are not positive in a relationship it will definitely fall apart and you have to be honest. You have to be completely honest with how things are and how things work.
Today I would like to talk about a number of things. I want to talk about the LNP in Queensland, I want to talk about the West Australian Nationals, I want to talk about ourselves as a party and I want to talk about a 34-year-old Spanish gentleman Hernan Cortes.
Hernan Cortes, 34 years old set off from Cuba. He was going across the Yucatan Peninsula. He wanted to take on Montezuma. He wanted to go in to Mexico City and knock out the Aztec Empire. Hernan took with him 504 soldiers, 100 sailors, 16 horses and 11 ships. That was it. He landed on the Yucatan Peninsula and he wandered up, he wandered up the coastline. He had a battle at a place called Tabasco, it’s a hot place, Tabasco and then he did something very interesting. He was convincing the people that he was with, that this was not going to work in the Central American jungle unless they were completed committed to the purpose. If they weren’t completely committed to the purpose they were all going to die. They were all finished.
So what he did, colleagues, was he burnt the boats. He set fire to the boats and said ‘Now, you are in it for good. This is it, you will not float back to Europe on a cinder. You are either in this or you are not.’ Why do I say this? Today we have delivered a policy document. We have delivered a policy document and we are saying this is it. There is no going back. You are not going to float back and live on a twilight zone and live on a cinder. If you want this party to grow, if you want to survive, then we have to do one thing. We have a leader, we have Warren and we are going to get behind him and follow this right through to the election. This is it and we are going to actually stand up for what we believe. For regional Australia. This can not be just a statement.  If it is just a statement we are finished. It has got to be something that is enforced in the way we vote, the way we act in the way we conduct our business.
I am now going to draw the parallel between why this works and I am going to bring two disparate issues and how they are both the same. In Queensland we have burnt the boat. There is no National Party in Queensland and there is no Liberal Party. There is a new party, it is the LNP. That is it. Dispel the illusion that that is not the case. In Queensland there is the LNP and it watches very closely what happens down here. The reason the LNP worked is we have burned the boat. They said there is nowhere to go back to. They said this is it, this is what is going to happen. That is now in train.
In the Northern Territory we have the CLP and people will be part of an organisation down here as long as it is working, as long as it is cutting through. But if it is not cutting through and it is not working they won’t.
So, in Western Australia, they did exactly the same thing, they burnt the boats, they said it is the National Party, we are going to be standing everywhere, we are in this for the long haul, let’s go and they did it. They burnt the boats and they survived. They did exactly the same things and they did it in two separate ways.
It is how you politically survive. If you live as a vague colour, if you live as a shadow of another organisation then you won’t survive. So this is what we have in front of us, we have a challenge we have a challenge laid down for us this is fair dinkum this time. We will be going to an election, don’t know if it will be the end of this year or early next year but we will be there. The Labor Party have loaded the gun not with one double dissolution they have loaded the gun with I think five or six double triggers. So we are off to an election and we have to be ready for it. To go to our constituents and tell them who we are and what we are on about.
And it’s got to be who WE are, and what WE are on about. It must be that.
Let’s look at some of the things that we have talked about so far.
We talked about the ETS. The National Party at a Federal level has been completely consistent on the ETS. It is the Employment Termination Scheme. It is the Extra Tax System and when that metaphor was working and cutting through the Labor Party got cunning and thought they would change it to the CPRS. Well the CP stands for cunning plan to get yourself to a double dissolution and RS stands for what the economy will look like if they ever get there.
This is just another tax. It is a tax that is going to come to you from the power points. Every electrical appliance in your house will have a tax on it. The ironing will be taxed, the vacuuming will be taxed, watching footy on a Sunday will be taxed, turning the lights on will be taxed. Who will they be taxing, working families. Then you’ll want to go shopping and what will happen? All your food will be taxed. If you are sick of it and want go on a plane and go away for the weekend, it’s on aviation fuel, you’ll be taxed. Everything in this new world under Kevin Rudd is taxed. Kevin in the shopping trolley, Kevin at the ironing board, Kevin in the kitchen, Kevin on the plane n the plane, too much Kevin makes me feel very sick.
And what is he going to do this for? Because Kevin is going to change the climate. It is amazing, he is going to make that out there different. He told us so, it must be true. The reality is the ETS Iis not going to change the climate one iota. Not one thing will change in the climate because of this new tax. Metaphorically speaking, the difference Australia will make is the equivalent of  the breadth of a hair on the length of about a one kilometre bridge.
It is so infinitesimally small. So ridiculous, so pointless, yet we are putting our economy out to dry.
I was talking to Brad and he said you have got to talk about jobs. If you want to talk about jobs, talk about the ETS. Just the other in Rockhampton, in my state, they are putting off people, working families out on the street because of the CPRS. That’s what Kevin has done for working families.
He’s put them out of a job and we are going forward with this scheme that will bring a 20% reduction in regional economies. We worry about two negative quarters which gives us a recession and they’re probably ¼% and ½%. Yet if we agree to this ETS, we sign our regions up to a 20% reduction in their economy.
There is nobody, nobody who should be supporting that. If we believe in that (pointing to sign Regional Australia), then we do not believe in a new tax to put them out of a job. It is as straightforward as that. It is as straightforward as that. If we confuse that metaphor we are lost.
So this is one of the big issues and the National Party has led the way on this. The National Party has turned people’s views around on this and we are winning. If you listen to talkbacks and look at the polls we are winning. The National Party led, the Australian community is coming in behind and now everybody will start ducking for cover on this one.
We must remain consistent because this is how you politically survive.
This weekend we have also talked about food security. Hoary chestnut issues that always get brought up. We are belling the cat, saying if you keep losing prime agricultural land, if you lose the capacity to put on the table for the Australian people something that is the greatest semblance of their standing of living, that is affordable food. That is one of the greatest things you can deliver to your nation. One of your greatest gifts to your nation is the capacity to feed it and we don’t acknowledge that so often in Australia. We take a steak for granted, we take a roast for granted. We just think it happens.
We just think it is my right, it is my birthright that this be affordable. In other nations you will live on peanuts and salad. You won’t get the sort of food you get in Australia. It is one of the greatest examples of what we are and what is our standard of living.
But slowly it is being whittled away. Slowly whittled away, whittle away. By caveats and imposts and ridiculous taxes where people presume they are going to change the climate from a solo decision in Australia and we must bell the cat and we must bell it not just for people in regional Australia but for the whole of Australia.
Every person in every suburban street wants the capacity to be able pay for what is in that shopping trolley when they take it through the check out and if they can’t do that we have not delivered to them what is one of the basic fundamental things that any government should deliver. It is the National Party that leads this. We have been talking about food security, we have been talking about branding and we have been selling the message back to the suburban street from regional Australia.
It is the National Party that once more goes to the fore. Other people say sorry to indigenous Australia and then promptly forget about them. They go through the rhetoric, oh it’s all marvellous, they say sorry and the rhetoric is marvellous and promptly forget about them. It is the National Party that says let’s follow this agenda through. Let’s pursue this agenda. Let’s bring about the form and the mechanism and change that will bring a better standard of living. We in the National Party talk about zonal taxation as a stimulus to remote regional areas and who lives in those remote regional areas? Indigenous people.
We in the National Party talk about making sure we have sustainable economies and we don’t completely lose all water rights from an areas because if you do you destitute the people in the area and who lives in those disparate areas, indigenous people.
We in the National Party talk about health and making sure it is brought out to all communities and we in the National Party bring the guest speaker to talk about health and we in the National Party work out how we can actually provide those outcomes because we believe in it. We don’t just go through the rhetoric. We follow the issue all the way through. It is in the National Party as well in regional areas we build our constituency as well. Those who wish to destroy us see us only as a party for farmers. My heritage is in farming. My family came off the land but I am an accountant. If I have made any money in my life I have made it as an accountant and I certainly didn’t make it in this job, by the way.
Small business, that is the thing that drives me and smart farmers, guess what they are? They are small businessmen, without a shadow of a doubt. If a farmer doesn’t call himself a businessman then he won’t be in business for very long
We are a party of small business people. Look who represents us, we have got. Bossie, paintbrush salesman, Fiona, she is a farmer, she is the genuine article. 
Me I’m an accountant and this is a true representation of who we truly are. Not union officials, not all solicitors, small business people. If you have a look around the room ask this question about the National Party, the penny drops, we have all been in business. That’s why we don’t got through the scripted lines. The great thing about this is, this weekend has been a genuine political forum. The Labor Party conference was the most inert, boring, biscuit of rubbish I have ever watched. It was just   inspired insomnia. Then they say that is vibrant political organisation.
They say that is democracy at work. It goes to show you that the immense micro management of Kevin Rudd has gone all the way to the very heart, the very nub of his own people to speak their own mind. His own people can no longer speak their own mind. It has to go past Lachie and the other people in the media unit in the Labor Party and they are great people, they are doing a great job, they have all shut up. There is only one voice in the Labor Party and it is King Kevin.
They all come up with the same lines. Decisive, they love the word decisive, you always hear it, and they trot the lines out and the media and everyone is starting to see through it. It is just this centralist ridiculous process.
Where the Labor Party come apart is on detail and I want to quote to you something that happened just the other week. I asked a question in Question Time.
I said how much foreign debt does our nation have. I actually have the answer, it interest me, I am an accountant, I am boring. I had the answer and I looked to the Assistant Treasurer of the Commonwealth of Australia as he went backwards and forth and stumbling over and all around and shuffling through papers. As an accountant you would think it would come to you like that (fingers click), this is our foreign debt, this is what it is. We asked the same question the week before so they had a bit of a heads up on it.
So we go around and he comes and he says the foreign debt is $678 bilion dollars. And I go Oh My God we’re broke. He was only out ladies and gentlemen by half a trillion dollars. It is $108.165 billion. He was out, Assistant Treasurer of the Commonwealth of Australia, by half a trillion dollars and people make mistakes like that when they don’t have a clue. When they haven’t got a clue how the economy is working. How on earth are we going to pay this debt back.
Not one of them has tabled an exit plan. In accountancy, in banking, that’s really important. How are you going to pay this money back Mr and Mrs Jones? How are you going to do it. I will tell you what their plan is. It is on page 6 and 7 of their little orange manifesto which is the second stimulus package. When things get better we will pay the money back. Bingo, that’s simple. I thought I’d try that out on my bank manager. I just want a lazy couple of million and he went what for and I said don’t worry mate because when things get better, I’ll pay then money back.
He called the police. And this is where our nation is. Our Treasurer says our debt will peak out at 315 billion dollars. All this billions, quillions, Brazilians, whatever you want to call them they become just numbers. Let’s put it in a form.
$315 billion and the sub prefecture debt which is the debt of the states which we have underwritten, remember Queensland is broke, NSW is heading broke, they are all A over T. What this means, is that if we put this money in the corner of the room and had a good hard look at it, it is about half a trillion dollars and that matches up with where the forward projections are in the Budget. If we put a cost of funds of 7%, see the rate curve is racing through the roof, there is big upward pressure on interest rates. It is going to happen. So 7% of half a trillion dollars is $35 billion a year just in interest. What’s important is we have never had a surplus of all the states and the federal government combined together that could ever pay our interest bill. Ever. So you ask this question of Treasury, how are we going to pay the interest when we don’t have the money? They are going to borrow the money to pay the interest. Borrow the money, that is economic palliative care. This is when you get another credit card to pay off the one you’ve got. Now this is the reality of Australia. This is the reality of our nation now and unfortunately this is where we are heading to this position. Everybody is saying this debt is terrible but it has not affected them yet. But you will get to a point where there is no money and then you’ve got a problem because who pays for the doctor in the hospital, who pays for the nurse in the hospital, who pays for the train driver in the train, who pays for the defence force who pays for the roads, who pays for your subsidised cancer treatment under the PBS. Who pays for this? The public purse but there is no access to more money in the public purse so it stops.
And if you think that doesn’t happen, have a look at a little state in the United States called California. This is what happens. They don’t get tax refunds any more they get IOUs. Serious, this is where it is off to.
That’s what happens when a nation goes broke. That’s the reality. That’s the reality for all of us. That is the message if Mr Rudd wants to pull on an election we will be taking to him and we will be saying the only lunatic in the western world who has a plan to make it worse Kevin is you with your ETS. You are the only one who has come up with a great way to make a the worst situation undoubtedly worse. 
To put an overhead on every production site on our economy where the people who pay are the coalminers, the farmers, the graziers, the working families, the pensioners, every person who actually produces something has to pay the tax and who benefits? A very select group of people called share brokers in Sydney. They make money out of this. Big money, the banks love it. Banks get the churn on the tradable product. They get the one and a half per cent commission each time it goes through. $11 billion worth of permits the first year. $11 billion times what? $165 million. $165 million churn it three times, what’s that $495 million, that’s half a billion. It’s a great little earner, It’s a great little earner all I’ve got to do as a banker is say I am very concerned about the climate. I am very concerned that we are about to make an absolute bucket load of money. That’s what I am concerned about. But we will bell the cat to make sure it doesn’t happen and we will go into bat.  
Then people say oh you are a climate sceptic. How do you get around this debate? I am not sceptical about climate at all. I walk round in it every day. I breathe it, I know it is there. What we can do if we are serious, if we really want to move ahead on the agenda is we start asking ourselves some very serious questions about how we do things.
One of the agendas we must start looking at is nuclear power. We must be serious about it. We have to start asking the question, do we live in 1954? Paul Howes from the AWU is out saying this is ridiculous it is time to move on.
Well we should be saying this as well. We export this product all around the world, we obviously think it is philosophically correct to export it to everybody but we don’t believe we should use it ourselves.
Then you have the query that everyone will put up well do you want one in your backyard? That’s the ultimate payback, but do you want one in your backyard? Well I bet we can devise a plan so that I do. You give me my power at half price I’ll take one. I’ll take one tomorrow and if gave every council in Australia the right to have a referendum to ask if you want one we’ll give you your power at half price, that is your choice. And then just let the Australian people make the decision. That would be a nice way to go about doing business. Let the Australian people make the decision about whether they want to do it.
This is what we have to do if we really want to think around the corners. If we really want to reduce carbon emissions then these are the issues you are going to have to do. If we just run around thinking that we are going to stack the world up with windmills and solar panels that are going to cover half of Victoria, well that is a noble gesture. You could put it at the side but don’t rely on that as a baseload power source. And if we lose our baseload power source we lose the whole mechanism of one of the greatest efficiencies Australia has. Cheap power.
These are the issues which the National Party can be at the fore at.
We talk about the issues and we do lead, we have led on things. We have led on the ETS, we are leading on food security, we are leading on indigenous issues, we have talked about the way we can go through in the future.
We have the capacity, we have made the commitment now that we are for regional Australia. That is it, we have burnt the boats, there is no going back. This is it, there is nowhere to go back to, we have made the commitment now that we are either going to differentiate ourselves as a unit, we can do that within the Coalition, there is absolutely no reason at all we can’t.
If Western Australia can work as a perfectly good government then so can we, so it is all in front of us, but if we want to back down to the beach, and if we want to back down and if we want to stick those pieces of charcoal back together again, and then vainly swim out into the ocean, hoping that we will survive, we won’t only be letting ourselves down we will be letting this nation down. This nation needs us as a conservative force in Canberra.
This nation needs that capacity to have that other person to talk to. This nation needs the capacity to have a National Party that is there, that can bell the cat and move the agenda. Without this National Party, the whole of this nation will be run out of two offices. It will be run out of the Leader of the Opposition and Mr Kevin Rudd’s office and that will be it.
I see my nation as a far stronger place, as a far better place, I see my nation as a far more vibrant place. We have a duty to our nation, we have set our course this weekend, I look forward to being part of that course and we will make it to our ultimate goal and we will win.
Thank you very much and God bless you.
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# shannon
Monday, August 24, 2009 3:52 PM
I congratulate you Barnaby on a straightforward,honest,down to earth and informative speech.God knows we need some reliable leadership for this country.....Its heading "to the dogs"...or simply to the Chinese if they decide to call in all their loans !!!....noone has mentioned that !!
Im sure a large percentage of Aussies think the Nationals are for the country people only ..Its time they stood still, and really thought about what you have bought to light here.Spreading the word is essential.
Regional Australia provides us, with all our food and majority of our energy requirements on a daily basis...force people out of business and what happens ..eventually the cost has to go up..one way or another.
I for one, just cant understand why the "average aussie " cannot see the writing on the wall !!
God knows how the average family is going to survive...let alone the pensioners. A revolution in living standards (huge drop) has to be factored in here....of course Rudd isnt going to admit to this.!!
Like Barnaby I dont believe that wind and solar are the answer..Ive had solar for 20yrs with a family of 5....I worked out I have saved over the past 10yrs a whole $12 /yr in cost to me for my hot water usuage !!..and yet the public has been "brainwashed" how they are going to "save on their hot water bill"...its total "bullshit" and Ive proved it.!!
The saving is to the state/government on the production of power..basically because they cant produce enough to an increasing population..and the ET has just compacted this situation furthur.
All I can say if people ignor Barnabys concerns ..city dwellers start digging up part of your back yards (get rid of the pool)..veggies and chooks are back on the agenda..along with a grape vine,orange/mandarine/lemon trees...and trading with the neighbours...."survival" is the new trendy word ...bugger climate change !!

# Anne-Kit Littler
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:06 PM
Re the ETS: Way to go, Barnaby! You're like the little boy in the fairytale about the Emperor's New Clothes, I wish there were more politicians like you.
# anthony cox
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:11 PM
I'm the secretary of The Climate Sceptics Party; BJ has summed it up beautifully. AGW [man-made global warming] is a scam; look at who are supporting it; the fringe greens and the finance spivs. And there is not an ounce of science and wit and truth in the whole mess.

There are about 5 or 6 pollies I would have a beer with and Bj is at the top of the list.
# merv
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:34 PM
Well done Barnaby, keep up the good work. Your party is a lone voice on this ETS scam - I was most impressed with Warren Truss on Insiders as well.

You are picking up momentum with this, and all i can say is - THANK GOD someone can see the obvious and has the guts to follow their principles and go public with them - along with Nick Minchin.

All the best and good luck, there are many counting on you.

Peter Turley
# Robyn
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:34 PM
Well done Barnaby! At last a conservative politician who believes in what he says. An inspirational blast and one which conservative voters in Australia have been waiting to hear since November, 2007.
Meanwhile the Liberals are scratching around trying to appeal to the yuppies in the capital cities and the professionals' wives, who've had it all too easy and want this to continue, so are easy prey for the doomsday forecasters/AGW's. Of course increase in taxation wont bother them a bit, they have plenty of money, take a look at what they drive or where they spend their holidays.
So good luck Senator Joyce, while you're not the Opposition Leader, you have become the Inspirational Leader of the Conservatives; and boy, how badly we needed one.
# Graham Campbell
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:36 PM
Keep up the preasure. Krudd and Wrong are not right, even if they are left. I hope more people understand what you have said. Just because of this one thing I will be voting National. Make sure all your people understand.
# Robyn
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
Do not give in. Stand firm. Good luck!
# Rationalist
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:39 PM
Memo to Malcolm: listen to Barnaby, he has the tactics to make the next election surprisingly close.
# Ben
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:59 PM
Some of your best mate!
# Matt Hardy
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:09 PM
God Bless YOU, Barnaby Joyce. Ever thought about becoming our next Prime Minister?
# Wyndham Dix
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:10 PM
Praise God for Barnaby's courage to give voice to the concerns of many conservative Australians! The country is rapidly becoming a pale imitation of what it once was. Rising debt, crime, breakdowns in relationships, litigation, are all symptoms of disintegration. Put simply, we have lost the moorings that once made us a cohesive people.

Big government, intrusive by definition, and promoted by leftists and social conditioners, is most decidedly not the way back to prosperity. Nor is today's unmistakably pink Opposition a viable alternative government. It has forfeited the suburban vote I have given it for 50 years.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:13 PM
Wonderful inspirational speech Barnaby. Thank you.
# Peter Wiseman
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:18 PM
Thankyou for your steadfastness Barnaby. You have changed the way I look at the Nationals as you have provided a clear policy difference between the major parties for the first time in years. Sadly the Libs under Turnbull are nothing more than Labor light and I cannot support them in treasure, in kind or with my vote any longer. Keep it up and you have my vote and my local National Party candidate will have my support.
# Grant
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:47 PM
Great stuff! Enough to make me change my vote at the next election.
# George Pietrzykowski
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:51 PM
Senator Joyce there are 2 types of voters out there, idiots who are attracted to politicians who chop and change policies according to the latest fad. There is also the thinking voter, people who support politicians who will stand up for what is right even if at times its not the latest fad.
Mr Rudd may have a lot of support (at the moment), but its the old donkey vote. Senator Joyce, you are the thinking man and womans representative. Great work!
# Dean McAskil
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:05 PM
I congratulate you, and Mr Truss on you stand on the ETS. Like your answers re the leadership issue on Insiders this week it is clear direct and truthful.

As a life long Liberal I can only wish more strength to your arm because it now appears you are now the only true conservative party in the Federal Parliament.

Hold fast!
# Iren
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:07 PM
Barnaby, go get 'em!

I only hope your example will serve to stiffen the Liberal's backbone a bit. They don't seem to be smart enough to realise that their only chance of electoral success is to give people a real choice. To explain the issue in practical terms, as you are doing, and to tell them that they're prepared to stand up and fight, not roll over and play dead!
# matt
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:13 PM
Time to question the science, you'll find people will support you!
# Jack Woodrup
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:26 PM
Best political speech I have heard in a long time. Lets get rid of Malcolm, the man is useless, and get B-Joyce at the helm. Really Branaby this was truly terrific. Keep up the great work.
# Simon
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:29 PM
Thank you Barnaby, I can't tell you how much of a relief it is to hear someone in a position of power standing up to the climate mafia.

You've got my vote.
# Jon at WA
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:33 PM
Thanks Barnaby

For any political party to actually think of the constituent is I believe without precedent in the last forty years. Now you have burnt the boats, remember Cortes had technology, he knew how to make gun-powder. Australia is leaking knowledge overseas and the CPRS will be the death knell for Aussie innovation. When the generation that knew foundries, factories and machine shops dies we will not only not have food security, we won't have shelter or transport at a cost we can afford. The irony is that poverty not CO2 correlates with environmental disaster.

To avert this real environmental disaster, time is short and the estates, the green high priests, the media, the lawyers are all in the trough for the next election. They will miss-quote every word you say, they will tie you up in a regulatory mess. Do you have have the guts to risk the perks of parliament to stand up for what is right? Bossie might have a gut but would he tip in the future fund that protects his super or the perks that buy loyalty to the political party system above loyalty to the electors. Are those around you prepared to gamble the treasures they accumulated during forty years of miss-management of Australia? Give us a sign! A sign that your mates won't sell you and all that is great about Australia down the drain to be Ambassador to the Holy See!
# Donal of SA
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:38 PM
How about that! A speech long overdue from the conservative side of politics, and one which is both a warning to this country and a realistic plan to reverse the destructive policies of Labor.

It is to the shame of the Liberal Party that this same set of messages did not come from Malcolm Turnbull. Sen. Joyce has shown energy, forthrightness, and a clear articulation of ideas, at a time when Liberals are not able to project any message.

We know why Malcolm Turnbull is not heard - he is a faint echo of the Labor message, barely distinguishable from Rudd, Wong, Swann et alia. He was handed a golden opportunity to arouse the interest of the electorate about the ETS by alerting them to exactly what it is - a huge tax. The electorate does not like large taxes. But they don't know it is a tax. The electorate does not like job losses, but they don't know this is a result of the ETS. What a gift!

Instead, Turnbull appoints a mouse in sheep's clothing to argue for an ETS!
Mr Hunt. A more uninspiring shadow would be hard to find. And just what does Mr Hunt know about AGW? Or more importantly, just what does Mr Hunt know about the evidence that does not support AGW?

Let Mr Hunt be grilled publicly on his understanding of his AGW. No lazy consensus talk, no IPCC model recommendations. Science.

I have been a long-time Liberal voter. The Nationals will be getting my vote.




# bruno wilczynski
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:51 PM
If this is the calibre of political oratory if the Nationals were to rule the roost - then I'm switching my vote. Well done Mr Joyce you are my champion.
# Dave
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:57 PM
Well done BJ. Well done Nats. If I could run as a Nationals candidate in my electorate, I would. I fear for the country's future under this incompetent pack of fools in the Labor party. The next election will be all about the ETS and Barnaby you are spot on.

The ETS is the world's greatest scam. I mean look out my window now it's blowing a gale. Earlier today it was nice and sunny. Talk to those brainwashed people out there and they call that climate change!

How do you argue against pure stupidity. You can't. Don't let the Labor party turn this into the stupid country NATS!
# Geoff Sherrington
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:58 PM
Godd speech.

Essential point. Those increased taxed eventually getspent. It is extremely hard to spend windfall money without using up more electricity, gas, petrol etc. So the ETS ids a circular churn with the Feds taking a slice of the transaction and compliance costs, with negligible effect on the amount of GHG produced.

Second essential point. The costs of nuclear power as presented to Australians are inflated by social costs that other countries do not price so high. Typically, you'll pay above $us2 bn, up to $us4.5 bn for a new 1MW nuke. The Chinese have just ordered 4 more AP 1000s at 1.3 bn a MW. These social costs include paying huge insurance in advance, high-cost site studies and land acquisition, high-0cost feasibility studies that go on forever, that type of thing.

Just do it.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:02 PM
I agree with pretty much all you have said and written for quite some time Senator Joyce. This transcript is no exception. Perhaps I should change the URL of my blog from http://australasianliberal.blogspot.com/ to http://australasiannational.com/
# John Cox
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:02 PM
Well spoken, Barnaby. You have my support and the support of my family.
I have written to Malcolm Turnbull and made him aware that he has lost the family vote.
In this our darkest hour, Barnaby, we need you.
Thank you.
# Iren
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:04 PM
On the question of science, here are a few facts from Joseph D’Aleo, the Executor Director of Icecap -

"12 Facts about Global Climate Change That You Won’t Read in the Popular Press

1 Temperatures have been cooling since 2002, even as carbon dioxide has continued to rise.

2 Carbon dioxide is a trace gas and by itself will produce little warming. Also, as CO2 increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic so the more CO2, the less warming it produces.

3 CO2 has been totally uncorrelated with temperature over the last decade, and significantly negative since 2002.

4 CO2 is not a pollutant, but a naturally occurring gas. Together with chlorophyll and sunlight, it is an essential ingredient in photosynthesis and is, accordingly, plant food.

5 Reconstruction of paleoclimatological CO2 concentrations demonstrates that carbon dioxide concentration today is near its lowest level since the Cambrian Era some 550 million years ago, when there was almost 20 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere as there is today without causing a “runaway greenhouse effect.”

6 Temperature changes lead, not lag, CO2 changes on all time scales. The oceans may play a key role, emitting carbon dioxide when they warm as carbonated beverages lose fizz as they warm and absorbing it as they cool.

7 Most of the warming in the climate models comes from the assumption that water vapor and precipitation increase as temperatures warm, a strong positive feedback. Water vapor is a far more important greenhouse gas than CO2. However, that assumption has been shown in observations and peerreviewed research to be wrong, and in fact water vapor and precipitation act as a negative feedback that reduces any small greenhouse warming from carbon dioxide.

8 Indeed, greenhouse models show the warming should be greatest at mid to high atmosphere levels in the tropics. But balloon and satellite observations show cooling there. The greenhouse signature or DNA does not match reality, and the greenhouse models thus must greatly overstate the warming – and in a court of law would have to be acquitted of any role in global warming

9 The sun has both direct and indirect effects on our climate. Solar activity changes on cycles of 11 years and longer. When the sun is more active it is brighter and a little hotter. More important though are the indirect effects. Ultraviolet radiation increases much more than the brightness and causes increased ozone production, which generates heat in the high atmosphere that works its way down, affecting the weather. Also, an active sun diffuses cosmic rays, which play an important role in nucleation of low clouds, resulting in fewer clouds. In all these ways the sun warms the planet more when it is active. An active sun in the 1930s and again near the end of the last century helped produce the observed warming periods. The current solar cycle is the longest in over 100 years, an unmistakable sign of a cooling sun that historical patterns suggest will stay so for decades.

10 The multidecadal cycles in the ocean correlate extremely well with the solar cycles and global temperatures. These are 60 to 70 year cycles that relate to natural variations in the largescale circulations. Warm oceans correlate with warm global temperatures. The Pacific started cooling in the late 1990s and it accelerated in the last year, and the Atlantic has cooled from its peak in 2004. This supports the observed global land temperature cooling, which is strongly correlated with ocean heat content. Newly deployed N.O.A.A. buoys confirm global ocean cooling.

11 Warmer ocean cycles are periods with diminished Arctic ice cover. When the oceans were warm in the 1930s to the 1950s, Arctic ice diminished and Greenland warmed. The recent ocean warming, especially in the 1980s to the early 2000s, is similar to what took place 70 years ago and the Arctic ice has reacted much the same way, with diminished summer ice extent.

12 Antarctic ice has been increasing and the extent last year was the greatest in the satellitemonitoring era. We are running ahead of last year’s record pace.

What will it take for the media to let go of their biases and begin doing their job, reporting the truth?"

http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm?aid=970&idli=3

Hows that to be going on with!
# Machac
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:04 PM
Way to go Barnaby. If you and the Nationals stick to rejecting man made global warming and the ETS (extra tax scheme), then for the first time I will place 1 above the line on my Senate vote. Unfortunately I live in the city, so don't have a National candidate for the house of reps. I'm sick of the Liberals wishy washy lefty approach to many of the issues facing our country.
# NQ.Noel
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:18 PM
Why isn't Barnaby the opposition leader or even Prime Minister. How electrifying was his speech.
I E-Mailed Malcolm Turbull this morning urging him to change his mind about an ETS, follow the Nationals and many of his own team and reject this stupid Labor Party ETS outright. I suggested to him if he did do a 180 degree turn on this matter, his ratings would go shy high. He needs the fortitude to do it though.
Let the Labor Party go to an early election and fight them on the economy and the ETS together with all the broken promises they have made.
# Vaughan
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:40 PM
Way to go, Barnaby. Love your work.
# Keith Gold Coast.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:47 PM
Brilliant speech.

Only emphasises how pathetic the party I vote for, the Liberal Party has become.

When the public wake up they are being conned the only Party with any credibility will be the Nationals.

You are a shining light. Keep up the good work.
# Dr Paul Fidlon
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:58 PM
Thank you, Barnaby. Warren Truss and yourself have brought the National Party
back to life.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:00 PM
What a breath of fresh air in Australian politics.

The liberal party needs to get a new leader that is not tared with the AGW brush.

Give them hell Barnaby 60% of Australians are cheering you on.
# Daniel of Victoria
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:20 PM
.The Liberals are dead in my view, stale and unreliable. Both federally and in other states that have crumbled under Labors jackboots. Clearly it is time for a change.
Most Oldies are able to see through rudds veneer because they have long memories of hard times. I believe the Nationals will win the Country votes and a good deal of green votes as well if the cards fall right and fielding does his bit to discredit Wong and the followers of doom. Industry is seeing the cost of the ETS and its effects on profits as will investors.
You have a good grasp of issues and the ability to speak in a language that people understand. You must also realise that running alongside the Liberal party is not going to accomplish a result worthy of your constituents..
I feel that some National MP’s resent the publicity that you attract, and they consider you an unpredictable upstart. A maverick perhaps? Or just an Honest man?
Although the Liberal Party have some options open to them as alternative leaders, older and wiser people would realise that a separate identity for the Nationals is in the best interests of us all.. Events are moving in a way whereby the Nationals will soon be asking:
Are YOU a leader that is ready to change the face of politics in this country?
I think you may be as you are speaking out against the ETS, which has the potential to devastate Australia’s economy. And encourage by way of shifting our manufacturing industries to another land, another economy, another workforce, the benefits that we as Australians deserve and wish to maintain for our children.
You say the ETS meant “Employment Termination Scheme for working families in the coal mining and farming industries. Rudd’s ETS is nothing more than an ideological move that will line the pockets of his ilk and an ineffective gesture when put against that vast quantity of emissions from overseas.
We need Nationals running in every seat to regain power from Labor and roll the Labor party into oblivion. The party that stood on a platform of change and promised it would look after the Average working family are now at the brink of shafting those families and this country as it has never been shafted before.
. How about developing some ORIGINAL policys? Such as A nuclear power station,A boost to farmers of this country, a meaningfull assistance package by way of drought proofing the nation. I dunno,,, Build a DAM or something..
I have dragged my arse around both Farming life as well as in Industry and have seen Drought, fire storm flood.and union disruptions. Nothing scares me any more bar to see this nation go the way of a Banana republic under the present government or any other party that wishes to put their own personal gain before that of the Australian people.
Stand a few more Nationals and body snatch some honest hard working Liberals to give you a hand. You already have a good backing of some independents to who must be cogratulated for their stand on the issue of an ETS
Good luck and best wishes.Senator
bushrat.
# Warwick
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:31 PM
Nice work Barnaby...an accountant eh?

Perhaps you could research the numbers that came up with the 20% renewables target - there must be some research that led to 20%, and not 19% or 21%?

Or is it just a nice round number?

So are we are tackiling a perceived consensus scientific problem with a guess? With no science at all in the solution? God help us all.
# Simon
Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:36 PM
Man I wish I could vote for you - unfortunately I'm in Tasmania.

Good work mate!
# martin
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:04 AM
mate, i will move states so i can vote for you!
# John
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:14 AM
That will put the Cat among the pidgeons. Well done.
# Geoff Derrick
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:26 AM
Barnaby

The Cortes story prompts us to make a suggestion re a campaign slogan. Others have mentioned it today, and it shoud be seriously considered if and when KRudd pulls an election on climate Canutism.

Try "The boats are Burning" or some variation on this. Music may even come from Garrett's "Beds are Burning" by Midnight Oil. How ironic !!

Regards

Geoff Derrick



# Anthony
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:35 AM
Excellent speech, Barnaby.

If ever this AGW & ETS racket gets exposed for the massive lie and fraud that it is your name will be long rembered as the standard bearer of common sense and genuine concern for the silent majority that is too often shouted down by our vocal media class who couldn't care less about those they to pretend to have concern for.

Keep it up and thank you.
# Paul
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:02 AM
It is absolutely fantastic to hear a politician saying something intelligent. Best of luck taking the asylum back from the lunatics who now control it!
# Arnost
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:33 AM
B. kudos for this speach.

There is a recurrent theme in the posts above: "I have been a long-time Liberal voter. The Nationals will be getting my vote." - OK Ditto. But I accept that fielding a quality candidate in each electorate is probably difficult... So maybe only in the Senate...

As i see it, the Liberals are floundering - there is no vision or purpose to bind them. Under Malcolm they are a bad example of a reactive rabble, transparently appearing to only try to score short term politiical points in the hope that they appease the media... WRONG! It's a strategy that can never work with the "thinking" voters that are the mainstay of conservative support.

The conservative side of politics is crying out for leadership which sets out an agenda or platform that satisfies the long term needs of the "thinking" voters. Unless Malcolm changes his ways, and makes a stand differentiating himself and the Libs from Labor, he and the Libs will be seen as Labor "lite" and the electorate will never give him a go.

We all know that Australia's wealth is driven by agriculture and mining sectors. The "thinking" voter hears your message on this and supports it - as they "know" that jeoperdising these sectors will inevitably mean a reduction in living standards for all.

The ETS is poor legislation - ineffectual and so not fit for purpose that it's not funny. You need to leverage this and drive this as a point of differentiation into the public consciousness - people will inevitably vote with what is best for their wallet...

But you also need to have a practical strategy to reducing our reliance on fossil fuels - or at least breaking our dependence on Middle East oil. If you promise "real" investment into the "alternate" energy research, this can only be seen as a good thing. But talk to the engineers first...

Please do not back down from the stand you have taken. It is a start in framing the "vision" that can bind the conservatives and win over the "thinking" electorate. Maybe the Nationals can take over the leadership role? You come across as far more united than the Libs...

Though you may not win the next election, but once the folly of Labors economic management begins to bite - well, you never know - the next conservative Prime Minister may be a Nationals one.

God speed.
# J Mammat
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:53 AM
I was taught not to put your trust in any politician. Mr Joyce might be the exception. If Labor stays in power we are stuffed.
# adrian
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:54 AM
outstanding.
# Daniel
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:28 AM
Wow! That was a very impressive speech. Can you please make sure the Liberal Party and especially Mr Turnbull see it. This is what the Liberals should be saying even if it's with a slightly less regional focus, small business and living standards is where the fight needs to be. People don't seem to realise what they are going to lose and the complete lack of results for the pain.
Seriously, these people think Lord Kevin can control the weather. Somebody help us please. Go Mr Joyce and the Nationals
# Rosemary
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:29 AM
Someone please, please, please buy Barnaby a spot on primetime television and allow him to read that speech as an Address to the Nation. It deserves wider coverage than just us, and just the Nationals Federal Council.

Barnaby as PM!
# David
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:56 AM
In the U.S. Obama's unelected 'green Czar' is an self-proclaimed communist. Our 'green Czar' Mr Rudd is the Prime Minister, sadly. Not too sure about Rudd being a communist though. He's way out there, that's for sure.
# Maggie
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:08 AM
Thank you Barnaby. The Nationals will be the only Party to come out of this ETS and AGE scam with any credibility.
I do hope the Liberals read this speech and get behind you, one can only hope.
I ws impressed with Warren Truss on Insiders. The Nationals are growing.
# Greg Stubbs
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:23 AM
That seals it, I have voted Liberal for 32 years, but now I am a National voter. I am sick of this "me too" from labor and liberal.
Stand up conservative Australia and fight this ETS bulldust.

cheers
Greg
# bruce
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:32 AM
I live in the seat of Issacs.
I was a Liberal voter.
Put a National up for election in this seat.
# swanee
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:47 AM
Thank goodness for common sense BJ......You are a credit to your Party and Australia!!,,,,,,,,,,Senator Joyce, you have my Support!
# john of sunbury
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:16 AM
I am another lifetime Liberal voter but decided several weeks ago that I will now be voting Nationals. Thank God for stout-hearted men who stand up for what is right. You have restored my faith Barnaby Joyce.
# Neil
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:25 AM
Well done BJ. If you can, as Nationals, be united in what you have said, then you will have my vote!
# Nick
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:34 AM
Well done BJ - great speech. As a LNP member in Qld, it is vital I think to get Nationals candidates in every electorate across the country - bugger any previous agreement. the people of Australia deserve a choice. There are many Liberal voters out there wishing they could vote for a Nationals candidate in their seat. If they can't, we have to encourage them to vote for the Nationals in the senate.
# Peter
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:57 AM
In the main part to the point and accurate Sen. Joyce. I hope the Nationals stand a candidate in Dunkley. I suspect Bruce Bilson (sitting Liberal member) is a sceptic but toeing the party line.
But if the Liberals don't dump Turnbull and offer a genuine Conservative party option, totally oppose ETS, I will be voting for a National Candidate.

I am a former Liberal Party member and have assisted the Libs at state and federal elections.

No more.
# Greg S
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:58 AM
Barnaby, I was a jaded Liberal who was not happy with the party before the merger. I am still not happy with the Federal Liberal party who seem to be an opposition in name only but your straight way of talking plain common sense has made me realise that the LNP merger was necessary and has given me hope. Previously colalition arrangements meant that I only had a Liberal to vote for, now I will be making sure that my LNP candidate gets my vote but more importantly I will be ensuring that my senate vote in individually done to ensure that my vote favours those candidates that speak out and oppose the ETS that the Rudd Govt is intent on forcing on Australia. Thankyou.
# Rosemary
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:12 AM
I'd like to add now that Peter Dutton is leaving the electorate of Dickson there will be a vacancy for a conservative politician.

Can the Nats/LNP please put a candidate in for Dickson so Conservatives have someone to vote for.

I don't care if Dickson is now nominally Labor (because of electoral boundary changes), conservatives need Representation!
# Will
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:16 AM
Thank you Sir for a factual and heart felt speech that I hope will open the eyes of a lot of people who are guided by the MSM. Labor wants to tax us into oblivion for the sake of some political / international grandstanding.

Stay strong and remain commited to your messages as sooner rather than later they will be heard.
# Justin Moretti
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:16 AM
Fantastic, sir.

I found your speech via the blog of the Victorian newspaper columnist Mr Andrew Bolt, and I agree with every word. This is an issue you have to take not just to Mr Rudd, but to Mr Turnbull (or his successor) as well.

I had great hopes for the Rudd Government - I almost voted for it - but they have all been dashed. Mr Rudd has not made any practical moves to solve the "climate change" problem he claims is so urgent, and has squandered billions of dollars that he might have spent on firm solutions which would have provided employment for Australians.

I live in your NSW colleague Mr Cobb's federal electorate, and I will be voting non-Liberal in the Lower House for the first time in my life this time round.

I would be interested to hear what your opinion is, if any, on tidal and ocean-thermal power as potential non-sunlight-dependent and non-wind-dependent power sources. For the record, I support the nuclear option; but we must recognise that ultimately uranium and thorium are not infinite, any more than coal and oil are, and start work on successor.
# lionel king
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:31 AM
Thank god for Barnaby
Curse the press for not telling the science side of CO2
See nz climate science
# Ron Koerntjes
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:39 AM
Agree with what Baraby has to say, but can't help wondering why everyone else seems to.
Wot no dissenting comments frpm the greens or warmenistas?
Are only "acceptable " responses (those in agreement ) being posted?
Is someone practising censorship in a nation priding itself on free speech?
I hope not.
# John Gibson
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:06 PM
I've burnt my boat Barnaby after reading that. I'm on your team.

You guys aren't a conservative voice - you are a progressive voice.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:42 PM
The media as a whole are assuming that everyone who lives in the city wants to pay a new tax. Wrong. 'Global warming' is a farce and a tax on Carbon dioxide is the biggest scam thought up in human history. It allows the government to collect tithings for this new religion regardless of your belief of current state of green grace.

It beggars belief how a supposed 0.5-7C increase in a 'global temperature' over a century indicates the beginning of the end. Take a wander up to UTS and ask any of the engineers of chemists what the accuracy parameters of a modern thermometer are. I'll give you a hint. Twenty first century digital thermometers are usually quoted at being accurate to within plus or minus 0.5C within range. Modern spirit thermometers are still quoted as being within plus or minus 1-2C. Bingo. There goes 'global warming' down the gurgler. The supposed warming is LESS than the error factor contained in modern measuring devices. The coast lines are not dissapearing, the Maldives are not going underwater, the Sahara is greener than it was, the air quality in most western cities is much better now than in the past, our drinking water is clean and safe and our power supply is affordable and reliable. In short, NOTHING TERRIBLE is happening. It's business as usual. Except that some people have now come up with a plan to trade futures on fresh air. It's the perfect con! Nothing is manufactured, no investment required, nothing ever has to be delivered, maintained, repaired, cleaned. It's money for jam (even better, you need sugar and fruit to make jam), and the money is going to be collected where? Out of my pocket, your pocket, any time you wish to purchase ANYTHING or use ANY service. It will cost, and cost, and cost. And the end result? A better climate! No way in the world. A lot more poor Australians. A few more of the aged and sick popping off due to exposure or starvation, but the climate? Not even a nick.

If the Nats and the Libs split over the ETS I am voting Nat. In fact I'll join the party and make a donation to the fighting fund.
As others in this forum have pointed out, we have achievable projects where money should be spent. Water management, fisheries management, forest management etc. It makes me sick that this nonsense is even being considered.

A modern coal or gas fired power plant is clean, cheap and efficient. Most of the east of Australia seems to be made out of coal so I don't see any reason not to keep using the resources we are so fortunate to have. On that note, we have a load of Uranium and Thorium that could be put to better use other than digging it up and flogging it.

Tell Turnbull that we conservative voters do not want a Labor Lite party. Compromised be buggerd. Chuck the ETS in the dustbin of political history where it belongs.

And whilst you are in 'truth' mode in the parliment, have another look at those non-existant F-35s we are gearing up to buy. Fair dinkum, the Libs and Labor are full of fools or crooks. Probably both.

Keep up the good work.
Mark Addinall.
# Fay Sharp
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:58 PM
thanks Barnaby, great speech... we need this strong message in Newcastle and I hope we've got a Nat candidate here to vote for...
# JH
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:17 PM
Outstanding!

This is no time for populism or a soft approach. It is time to go HARD,,REALLY HARD with a short, concise clear message that is aimed fairly and squarely at the myths that the Rudd government is spinning.

For goodness sake, enlist some like minded and hard headed, passionate colleagues and get on TV, Radio in the papers... on the streets... take out ad space... do WHATEVER IT TAKES to shake the masses out of their sleepwalking acquiescence.

Sure..we all want to cut pollution etc... but a tax ain't going to do it! I think a well known crusader Bob Geldoff said as much sometime in the last year or two.
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:41 PM
BJ, after Mr Truss on Insiders and now reading your brilliant speech, my whole family are inspired to not only vote for, but join the Nats.

Why don't conservative voters, so rightly disenchanted with Turnbull, do a little bit of digging into his background, and put two-and-two together?

He's a former CHAIRMAN and PARTNER of Goldman Sachs ('97-'01)... and GS are at the absolute forefront of Big Banking's push for emissions trading. Why? As Barnaby says ... so they can make squillions speculating on another new form of derivatives trading. A derivative leveraged up x-times on top of the funding base of carbon credits, which is this new tax... on life itself.

Check for yourself. Then you'll understand why Turnbull REALLY wants to bring in an ETS. Read Malcolm's bio... and Google Matt Taibbi's recent article in Rolling Stone magazine "The Great American Bubble Machine", for the good oil on Goldman Sachs and the coming "Carbon Bubble".

Or go here, if BJ will allow the link -
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25981706-12250,00.html
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:44 PM
Oops, wrong link ... here's the correct one -
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29127316/the_great_american_bubble_machine/7
# William Pearce
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:17 PM
I have been a Liberal Supporter for 49 years. I will be voting National Party at the next election.
Reason:- It is good to know that we still have Politicians such as Truss/BJ who are not afraid to say what they believe to be Facts.
When Politicians today will say anything, do anything, irrespective of the consequences to the General Public, the Economy etc, all they are concerned with is keeping their posteriors in the chair,it is indeed refreshing to hear Politicians such as Truss/BJ face facts for, and on behalf of the people and tell it right.
Congratulations.
# Philip Crowley
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:33 PM
Very well said Senator. I'm with the lady who suggested the speech be aired in prime time as an address to the nation. Good luck getting an airing on Aunty ABC though. If the Nat's field a candidate in Ryan at the next election, they'll have my vote. Count me in for a Senate vote though, definitely. Keep speaking from the heart mate, it works.
# Gerardine
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:54 PM
How can we make this speech compulsory reading for every Australian citizen? Thank God for you, Barnaby! Our democracy is being ill-served by this heightened predisposition to placing elite professionals in seats. You made Parliament sound the way it was when we first began - a true reflection of what that "place" in Canberra should really be like and that is "representation" of the heart of this nation. And it is that heart which will be ripped out if this ETS is to pass. It will be the most vulnerable who will suffer first - the disabled, frail and aged and genuinely disadvantaged. I would love to know how MPs - on either side of the fence - could possibly provide a plausible answer to that one.
# iAN
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:05 PM
A note from the Wild West: Barnaby, you need to have Brendon listen a little more intently to what you have to say. You need a coalition, at both National and State level, that works together. Brendon may very likely undo the good work of the Nationals across all regions unless he listens a little more closely to the concerns of those who put him where he is. Siding withe the state ALP when it suits him is not the way to go (witness extended trading hours to bring WA into 21C). I enjoyed your speech, you are of course entirely correct on the ETS.
# Dragon
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:10 PM
I seem to recall hearing a lot of this speech on Laurie Oakes last Sunday? Doesn't matter, spot on. A lot of people seem to think your support is only coming from faded Liberals, disenchanted Libs etc, I am a Labor voter, sorry was a Labor voter. This issue alone (ETS) is enough for me to change, and like many of us, I am in the burbs but will vote Nats in the Senate. I just want to be sure that this is exactly where the vote goes, not end up with the Libs. Not much point in having a big vision for Australia if the lights are out. I don't understand why the electricity generators, food retailers etc don't start saying straight out how much it will REALLY cost each family. I don't care who is governing as long as they have the best interests of its' citizens at heart (ie strong economy and strong living standards). The rest can then be looked at in the 'fullness of time'. Personally I don't have that much time to worry about other problems when I have enough pressing problems regarding financial security, job security, living conditions, interest rates and the inevitable tax increases. I know it doesn't change anything, but I feel I should say sorry to the people of Australia that I had a hand in electing this incompetent and scary mob.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Don H
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
Barnaby,

Excellent speech, but one which will, no doubt, not get the coverage it deserves in the media as it doesn't suit their agenda of selling papers and news by frightening people with lurid headlines.

How is it that the Federal & State Governments are allowed to get away with false advertising, using reeking smokestacks, steaming water towers and the word "carbon" when demonising C02. The very fact that every person on earth exhales it after every breath proves these images false. It is an invisible, tasteless and odourless gas (with the probable exception of those with halitosis and a number of Politicians who carry the whiff of bull manure on their breath).

It's my understanding that the Victorian Government had been instructed to pull their "black balloon" ad off TV, but if that's correct they have blithely ignored it. If any manufacturer attempted a similar type of fraudulent advertising they would be (rightly) taken to Court.
# Bob
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:33 PM
Barnaby, thank you. Great job. I am starting to believe that the current retreat of reason & common sense can be reversed - all we need is more politicians like you. Heavens know Australia needs it.
Thank you, Barnaby.
# Tar & Feathers
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:41 PM
Onya' Barny. I believe in you, boy!
I'll be first in with the tar and feathers when Rudd bites the dust.
# Donna Barker
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:31 PM
Fabulous and inspiring Barnaby. Keep up the good work. I'll be voting Nationals next election, the Libs have lost their way. Your stance on ETS is to be congratulated. Keep up the good work, there are more people out there sceptical of Rudd's scheme than the media portray. Like you say, it's time to burn the boats and stand firm!
# Bret_McS
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:24 PM
Senator Joyce, you are a real leader.

I spoke with Prof Ian Plimer at one of his book signings, and he said that 80% of the Liberal Party reps were on board with you and the National Party. Hopefully that can become 100% in the near future.
# Xenia
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:30 PM
Outstanding Speech. Outstanding Commonsense. Outstanding Solutions.

Keep it up BJ. You're the man!
# Meggie
Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:53 AM
Here's another long term Liberal voter switching to the Nationals. Keep swinging Barnaby, we need a voice for common sense more than ever before.
# Anna
Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21 PM
Great speech Barnaby! Keep up the pressure on Rudd, and also on Turnbull.

I am very disappointed that Liberal party did not rejected completely EST! No matter how well Turnbull tries to adjusted EST, not to cost as much as Labor's one, it is still a huge tax, that will ruin our economy and standard of living for everyone.

I did not vote for Labor and their fear of CO2/weather, nor ever received call from any pollsters asking my opinion about EST. Where are all those 77%, begging for urgent implementation of EST, coming from? Are 77% a figment of imagination as well as is the climate warming (or 'change' to be PC)?
# Jared
Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:22 PM
What can I say - you never cease to impress me Barnaby with your intelligence, integrity, committment, insight and steadfastness.

Barnaby for PM!

PLEASE!
# Ken Goodall
Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:40 PM
Well done Barnaby and well done Iren (Post of Tues. Aug 25 2009 @ 10.04pm) I have spent 3 years trying to produce a succinct summary of the evidence against this CO2 nonsense - but yours is the best!

Why in hell doesn't Turnbull get going on this?

I have never voted Country/National Party in my long life - BUT I AM STARTING NOW!

If the Nats field a candidate in my electorate, even if he/she is a no chancer, my vote will be Nats 1 and Libs 2 as the Liberals must start learning where their preferences lie.

If no Nats candidate available then my preference will have to be recognised via the most appropriate Independent.
Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:42 PM
Go B.J. you good thing, at last someone with the balls to say it as it is !!!!!!!
# Thomas Warren
Friday, August 28, 2009 2:21 AM
Fantastic. We need more politicians like you. Forget the Democrats "keeping the bastards honest," the National Party is doing it. The Liberals need to wake up and realise the importance of what the Nats are doing. They have solid policy, ideas on the table, sane MPs and an emphasis on doing what is right for the community. Since they lost Mr Howard the Liberals have lots all of these things and the current leadership is making me apprehensive that Malcolm may do a Kevin '07 and just copy Kevin (anybody remember the Chaser's Kevin is just John Howard 2.0)...

Hurrah for the nats, you field a candidate in my electorate and they get my vote no matter what (and same goes for the half-senate elections)
# Bill
Friday, August 28, 2009 7:50 AM
Bravo, bravo, Barnaby a briliant speech!!
# Valda (National Party member)
Friday, August 28, 2009 11:59 AM
Great speech Barnaby, and it would be marvellous if The Nationals could govern this country in their own right. However, there are some practicalities to consider:-
ONE: If all National candidates in every Electoral Seat (Federally) win all of the Regional centres, do The Nationals have the numbers to govern?
TWO: Does the Coalition Agreement allow you to put a candidate into every regional seat?
THREE How do The Nationals finance a campaign that will allow them to succeed as in ONE above? (i.e. out advertise both Labor and the Unions).
Wish you all the best as this ETS must not become law.
# Trev
Friday, August 28, 2009 4:59 PM
Whatever you do Barnaby, don't let them grind you down. We need men like you with backbone, to stand firm. And God Bless you too.
# Geoff, ex proud Australian
Friday, August 28, 2009 5:08 PM
Well spoken. I only hope all Australia gets to hear it. I have a couple of comments to make leading from banks making millians from transaction fees per ETS. they must be making it now with the stupid inefficient method of GST pay and refund. Sales tax was much more efficient where funds only changed hands when the non exempt end user was involved. Bookwork was similar. John howard changed the method with diesel fuel tax 1982.
Nuclear power. My information is that breeder reactors can make nuclear fuel last for a thousand years. We have to store our otherwise spent fuel until it becomes economical and the world overcomes its nuclear bomb phobia.
Some years back Bob Hawk proposed such a scheme where we could be storing it for a fee. The media headlined his proposal " Australia Nuclear Dump" Not what I heard proposed. Australia is in the unique position of having geologically and up to now politically stable situation. And the world would know where it was.
# Darren
Friday, August 28, 2009 10:14 PM
Barnaby you should be the leader of the opposition. The only issue that can swing the next election is the ETS but the current liberal stand towards it is weak (co-operative). If they persist with that position they can not win the next election and that means four more years of labour for this country.
# Greg
Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:46 PM
Keep up the good work Barnaby Joyce and the Nationals. You are currently the only party with any integrity standing up to and opposing Rudd's ideologically driven ETS madness.

I've voted Liberal for 30 years. I am now finished with them. I will not vote Liberal while they support an ETS.

My vote will now go to the Nationals in the Senate - unfortunately I can't vote Nats in my inner city electorate otherwise I would.

I predict that the Nats are going to get a significant surge in votes at the next election from the many thousands and thousands of disaffected Liberal voters.
# James
Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:02 PM
Dear Barnaby, as a person living and working in Hong Kong,i steadfastly refuse to return to Australia whilst the ALP remains in government. I find it appalling that in a supposed democratic country the entire government apart from the PM have been silenced. Whilst I didn't vote for the ALP I find it absolutely appalling, that those who did are not having their vote represented through their elected leaders, that the muzzling of representative government has been so effectively and succesfully achieved by Kevin Rudd. Hong Kong as you know as a part of China is not a Democracy, however, I feel that I have just as much of a voice here as in Australia. The government here implements policy to represent all HK people, unlike Australia, whereby the current government simply represents its own constituents who voted for them. I mean how childish and devastating to give so much power to unions on an idealogical nonsense that class warfare rages in Australia and without brutes to intervene (to serve their own interests really) the whole industrial landcape wll come crashing down. In fact the only way to have it come crashing down is to do precisely what Rudd is doing, by giving the barbarians more power (to appease their basic insecurity and desperate and insatiable lust for power and control over other people) is not only obscene, but basically irresponsible and utterly dangerous. The industrial relations landscape worked a treat under the previous government. The saddest thing is that everyone has to constantly be sacrificed because of the left's obsession with their own legacy and with always having to leave something behind for people to remember them, unfortunately the only legacy they ever do leave behind is destruction and that is all they are ever remembered for. You only have to look at America and how angry the population is getting there with the autocratic and oligarchic way the Democrats are running the country.The same is happening n Australia, it is no longer a representative government but an autocratic, oligarchic government, run by deeply arrogant and elitist twits (it's my way or the highway and do as your told) .

Every critic and criticism of the ETS is correct of course but the ALP will simply push ahead even though they know it will not make 1 iota of difference to the climate which of course has cooled for the last 10 years. Why will they do this, well to feed the insatiable lust for rememberance, in the meantime those who do not support their insane beliefs can get stuffed because we're not governing for you anyway, it's only about our people. Yep, am never returning whilst I have a government that treats my country and its people with such disdain. Your a star Barnaby!!!
# robert s
Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:54 AM
Great stuff BJ. You and every one like you are true dinky di Aussies. We came to this country over 40 years ago and the proudest moments of our lives came when we became Australian citizens.
Believe me a lot of the people of today dont know what an Aussie is.
Kevin Rudd, Penny Wong and company are not true Aussies. How can they be when they quietly march to the tune of Karl Marx. We have allowed these pseudo Australians, The Greens, The Environmentalists, and the Socialists, to force their foreign ideologies on an unsuspecting people.
I say to every ' true Australian at heart ' drive these impostors out, out of our schools, out of our bureaucracies, out of our local councils and every where they pop up, by not ignoring their rantings anymore, whether it be on climate change or political correctness and by refusing to watch or read any media that supports these non Australian ideologies.
Listen to them, watch what they do and then vote them out at the first opportunity.
# Chris Carr
Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:27 PM
Barnaby Joyce as a politician has delivered an inspiring, truthful, honest speech steeped in common sense - he can't last.
# Phil Langford
Monday, August 31, 2009 7:38 AM
Barnaby,I knew little about you until now.Your speech just changed all that.
You are a large breath of fresh air amidst the looniies that would desrtroy our great democracy.Please find a way of getting your point of view to the wider community.I believe you have succinctly stated what a very large number of Australians already think and many more would come to.
Stay true
# j kermode
Monday, August 31, 2009 2:04 PM
Great speech Barnaby now please convince the Drs wives that seem to desperately believe in Climate Change.
Also see if you can get the Nationals geed-up in New England.
# Lachlan Heydon
Monday, August 31, 2009 9:01 PM
Lets swap Krudd for Shapelle, as he is the one that should be doing 20 years for treason. And Barnaby for PM.
# t-bird
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:37 AM
We could use us some Barnaby Joyce over here.

Senator, you're practically debt-free! Care to emigrate to the US and sink your accounting teeth into some real numbers? WonderBoy has us heading for $12 trillion ($12,000 billion) in debt and he's only been in office a few months.
# Ian Kennedy
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:37 PM
Congratulations Senator Joyce. For God's sake, don't bend. But you have to sell the message, on the street, and sell it hard because it won't be long before that double-dissolution trigger gets pulled. More strength to your arm, Sir.
# Frank Rzepecki
Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:40 AM
Thanks Barnaby great speech.

It is amazing that everyone I talk to is of the same opinion as me when it comes down to the ETS. It is amazing how Kevin Rudd won the election. I think it will be hard for him to win another one if he brings this job destroying policy in. I have studied quite a few websites on the climate change subject and there is a great flaw in what is being preached by the climate change enthusiasts. There is a scientist in Switzerland who states that this is a natural phenomenon which occurs every 200 or so years. He says to look at the early 1800's when the Thames froze over for a number of years and there was a mini ice age in Western Europe. Then he talks about the great droughts and fires in England in the 1600's. He states that these things occur because the earths axis becomes unaligned because of sun spot events and takes a number of years to correct itself. I was also a swinging voter over the past couple of decades but I think the natio's will receive my vote next election. Stick to your guns guys you have quite a lot of backing out there
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