Senator JOYCE (Queensland) (10.10 a.m.)—by leave—I would briefly like to say that I, probably more than a lot of other people, understand that you have to move towards a position of possibility rather than shoot for the stars and achieve nothing. I think the issue here is that we should get this process moving along, and that is what is happening.

I take on board the views that have been so passionately bestowed on us by Senator Brown, yet I do not remember receiving a phone call from him on this. I take on board the views that have been so passionately extolled by Senator Ludwig, but I do not remember getting a phone call from him. The possibility was there if they genuinely believed that changes were required to deal with it. In fact, no-one from the Labor Party and no-one from the Greens called me. That is the difference between the rhetoric and the facts.