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In February I wrote on this blog:

"Welcome to my new website and as I come out of my technological cave to stare down the 21st century I hope that this arena does not become another non crucial part of the technological detritus but somehow can be a forum in which I can hear the views of Queensland and Australia.

"I will make my best attempt to try to explain a few things and maybe sometimes just stir the possum out of the trees so we can all have a bit of fun in a debate. This is a blog not a gospel and I think the greatest use I will get out of it is being able to assess what the views of the community are while trying to draft out those nasty little site stormers who no doubt will pop up from opposing parties and try to convince me that the way, the truth and the light emanates from one K. Rudd."

Since then the website has been open for comment but in the past month a handful of people have taken it upon themselves to write inane but lewd comments about other readers and public figures. I let it go for a while and the inappropriate comments were deleted. Blame rising temperatures (of human readers, not the planet) but the tone of comments has turned nasty and this serves the purpose of upsetting people and drowning out intelligent conversation. I'm no fan of the gratuitous insult so for the festive season comments on this blog are being moderated. That means you are free to write a comment but it has to be approved before it appears on the website, and this may take a bit of time.

Please take it easy here and on the roads and enjoy being with your family and friends over Christmas. I'm visiting Peter Spencer at his property near Cooma today. I'll let you know how it goes.

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# Coalition ETS
Friday, December 18, 2009 4:05 PM
I love WorkChoices. I'll vote for you lot any time!
# MJBegg
Friday, December 18, 2009 8:45 PM
Thank you again, Sir, and the Nationals for being the driving force for defeating the ETS (at least for the time being).

I was also quite fond of WorkChoices. Hoping that the soon-to-be-elected coalition government next year brings back IR laws to the 21st century.
# jennifer
Friday, December 18, 2009 10:16 PM
Looks as though the Americans have stitched up an agreement of some sort tonight...the big lie couldnt be allowed to fail could it.
Lord Monkton predicted this would happen.

It's like being in a nightmare and not being able to wake up,

# Dougal Pottie
Saturday, December 19, 2009 8:39 AM
Thank you for the good work you do on behalf of our people (even though quite a lot - the vocal ones anyway - don't recognise it). Your commonsense has brought some sanity to national debate. Good on you for visiting Peter Spencer. Best wishes for Christmas and a good 2010!
# scio
Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:12 AM
The well funded denier industry is at it again




"Scientists 'crying wolf' over coral

* Jamie Walker * From: The Australian * December 19, 2009 12:00AM



"A SENIOR marine researcher has accused Australian scientists of "crying wolf" over the threat of climate change to the Great Barrier Reef, exposing deep division about its vulnerability.

Peter Ridd's rejection of the consensus position that the reef is doomed unless greenhouse emissions are checked comes as new research on the Keppel group, hugging Queensland's central coast, reveals its resilience after coral bleaching"


So who is Peter Ridd? A director of the Australian Environment Foundation (great name - designed to sound like the Australian Conservation Foundation), funded by the Institute of Public Affairs (hence, funded in part by the oil companies). AEF supports development of nuclear industry, Gunns & other pulp mills, extensive cotton farming (the greatest of our environmental vandals) .

No doubt these paid deniers will lose their funding if they dont regurgitate the party line & keep chanting "the earth is cooling"
# Sue
Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:06 PM
Thank you Senator Joyce for visiting Peter Spencer. The media response has so far been dismal, but I hope Mr Spencer is encouraged. I hope that in determining an opposition pollicy for so called 'climate change', Mr Abbott can combine your position with something that actually willl benefit the environment, while protecting Australia's food supply.
# D A Pownall
Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:52 PM
The problem of global pollution will not be solved until a solution to unsustainable population growth is found.The world is like an overstocked paddock.
# Campbell Swift
Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:17 PM
Agree no need or space for lewd and inane comments. I fo one, thank you for your efforts, and for the opportunity for opinion which you do appear to take notice of when appropriate.

Compliments of the Season to you and yours
# Peter
Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:52 PM
Watch the 'spin doctors' get into full speed when Rudd gets back from Copenhagen. He will be claiming that it was only his presence that made the conference successful. In fact he was not even invited to the final meeting that produced the agreement that has been released. Only 25 delegates were in the audience when he made his speech when we had 140 delegates, where was the other 115? Out shopping?
# don and Rae Munro
Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:42 PM
Congratulations on your work with the ets scam, and your promotion to the Ministry. Keep up the good work.
We are very concerned at the plight of Peter Spencer, and the way that the federal governments have treated him, and others, in the same situation. Surely, a country such as Australia can look after their people, particularly those whose property use is taken off them for political use. Please do all you can for this man, he needs it, and so does Australia.
# Paul R
Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Exceptional work Barnaby. Well done mate. Just think of John the Baptist - the voice crying in the wilderness. Then keep going. Please do not stop. There are countless numbers right behind you and many more slowly waking up. It took 15 years for the two Nobel prize winners to convince the scientific community that stomach ulcers were not caused from stress but by a bacteria.
I would recommend everyone view Professor Bob Carter in the 4 part series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI This guy is for real and speaks sense ie valid conclusions deduced from real data. People must then realise eventually that all this debate worldwide is all about money and control with CO2 as the fear smokescreen.
I wish you and your family a peaceful and blessed Christmas.
# Gerard Mander
Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:38 PM
Barnaby understands well that people don't want to
change ther way of life for anything, and are prepared to ignore
science if need be.
# Sam Ferguson
Monday, December 21, 2009 12:17 PM

To all my friends and contacts.

I encourage and implore you to take just 5 or more minutes to open the link below and listen to an audio that deals with climate change and especially with the Conference at Copenhagen in early December and the frightening implications that it will have on the whole world, and especially Australia.
It could be the start of a One World Government, controlling trade, finance and even our personal freedoms.
I will say no more except you will be shocked by what you will hear.
If you value your life and your freedom, listen and pass it on to all your
contacts and especially your local politicians... do it today!
With real and urgent concern, take action now,


Please listen to this....

http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998
# jennifer
Monday, December 21, 2009 2:43 PM


There is a very good piece on Peter Spencer and the injustice of what the Government has done to him and other farmers at Quadrant online.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/12/peter-spencer
# Gerard Mander
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:42 AM
Sam Ferguson

I listened the broadcast and it is plain silly. Lord Moncton, an unelected
peer of the realm, what the hell can he tell Aussies about democracy?
His ideas are minority ones, not accepted by his own party even,
let alone credible scientists, etc. If he wants reduced government
intervention, best to act on climate sooner rather than later.
A collection of democracies at Copenhagen never proposed one government. This is sheer falacy.

What does it take those with views like yours to understand
that there is robust, independent, peer reviewed science indicating
man-made global warming, which is why so many tens of millions
wanted their elected representatives to attend Copenhagen.
Are the French, Dutch, Germans, British, Belgians, Irish, etc etc, all fools?!
Of course not.

My concern is that those who deny are those who do so simply because
they don't want to yield an inch to reduce their unsustainable lifestyles - 4x4s in the city, energy-wasteful homes, etc etc. One reads on the politically independent BBC of the Barrier Reef perhaps being dead in 20 years, of koalas facing extinction through drought, etc etc. Who wants to live in that kind of world? To want to address these serious problems
DOES NOT make one a socialist. No one wants climate change, not even lefties. Alan Jones & co can rant and rave all they like, the science won't
change, and climate change will begin to impact on more vulnerbale countries, and in due course their shouts will become a wimper.
# shannon
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:59 AM
Merry Xmas Barnaby and Family
and to all the interesting and intelligent people who have enlightened us all,using this forum this year...particularly in the past 2 months.

Please keep up the great work in the New Year.

I have a parting question to all.

Has anyone here been blocked from putting comments on NineMSN for any headline news item????
I'm sure that I have been blocked.
# George Wallace
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:13 AM
Exclusive: Lead Author Admits Deleting Inconvenient Opinions From IPCC Report

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exclusive-lead-author-admits-deleting-inconvenient-opinions-from-ipcc-report.html
# Dada Verdi
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:11 PM
Hi to Barnaby and all else reading on.

I am well aware that we are experiencing extreme weather patterns around the globe today and agree with the need for all people, industries and governments to be more progressive in environmental initiatives, ...however I do not agree with the tactics employed by the wealthy elitists, power broking monopolist corporations that are puppetting the political arenas of the world's people.

The scare campaigns and outright fraudulent manner that these people have strategically introduced to push a One World Government agenda via a fear driven global warming campaign is of the most corrupt nature that this planet has witnessed.

If people bothered to check the facts regarding who is profiteering from this CO2 tax scandal they would soon see the real mission of those who seek total control of this world.

Al Gore, Jay Rockefeller and the ex head of Enron initiated this fraud in the early 90's as a sure means to securing outrageous wealth and power through
taxing one of the four elements of life. Carbon... find out for yourselves and become more aware

They will not stop at this if they are allowed to succeed, check the information regarding hacked and leaked UN research data on so called global warming, refer to infowars.com and get the real story.

My questions are...why is there no real investigation by journalists in the main media about these power brokers and puppeteers, it is known they own the media however does that mean no journalist in Australia is prepared to stand up for the freedom of speech act and make them accountable while informing the people?

Do the elected representatives of this country expect the people to just be herded up as sheeple and take what is being dealt without question?

Congratulations Barnaby on making a public stand on this you are alone amongst your peers.

When will we see real leaders of the people elected into power instead of corporately funded millionaires pretending to be close to the common peoples
hearts?

When will the men of women of Australia stand up and reclaim the communities they are watching be destroyed, protect the parks and schools their children play and learn in, take back the night and the streets from the thugs and drug dealers who claim it as their business environment?

Lets get things in perspective again...fear is a powerful tool that can motivate people in a different direction they would otherwise be happy to head in.
Terrorism, swine flu, global warming, Nuclear war are all fear driven weapons these power lords use to control and manipulate us all.

More people have been killed by drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, Road Deaths, the common flu,malnutrition and cancers than any of these so called life threatening things thrown at us day and night by the media machine mind controllers. This is the really scary stuff around us.

Why is there not the same serious fear attack on the above mentioned as there is on the so called real threats to human society. is it because there is more money to be made from engineering terrorist attacks, arms deals, vaccinations...there is a lot of money to be made from this but really its the way to get people to allow their constitutions and rights to be lessened and amended..in order to protect them...its about one world government control...a new world order.

Kevin Rudd knows this, he knows who they are...all leaders of countries in this world know this..they just won't tell you.

John Kennedy did Bobby Keneddy did, Martin Luther King did, John Lennon did. Refer John Kennedys speech to the people on secret societies.



Check out the real facts people and ask yourselves why?
Do some homework on who is really controlling your life.

The Illuminati is not just a book concept by Dan Brown.

This is about world control of the people, the money, population control and destruction of nations. That's why they more focussed on destroying other countries than about developing free energies, refer to tesla and discover that it is available, and life saving technologies that will better standards of living for all.

Ask yourself why over 90% of the people in Australia are not aware that the reserve bank of Australia is owned by the Crown and not the Australian peoples elected and formed government.

Ask why the Fed reserve bank of America is aprivate company owned by private profiteers and not the US government and not its people.
refer ron paul end the fed.

I know its impossible for politicians in Australia let alone America to not be aware of this and yet it baffles me as why so few elected representatives are not courageous enough to stand and make these bodies accountable, make them transparent and reveal themselves in the true light of the day.

I only hope that you, Barnaby will not stop here and keep pushing down the closed doors on other dark aspects that you know exist within the corridors and rooms about you.

The Australian people need to be more aware of how the future of their children is being sold out underneath through deliberate lies, manipulations
and frauds on a daily basis.

I hope you are able to build this momentum with the people Barnaby and help them to look behind the masks and reclaim what has been hard fought for by their forefathers. They will back you in droves

Sorry if I have taken up more space than some may feel I am entitled to,
however i can't remember seeing a forum like this from a politician that is prepared to make the stand before and I will take every opportunity you offer to lift the curtains on this travesty of justice by those who have sworn an oath to protect and uphold.


Some people are more likely to call me a conspiracy theorist than taking the time to do some research and find out for themselves.

What harm can taking some time to check out some public records and supported facts do before ignorantly labelling someone a conspiracy theorist
and learning nothing. At worst all someone could become is more informed and aware at least.

Freedom of speech is everything and I also intend to stand up against government control of the internet, forced vaccinations and I am fed up with politicians putting flouride in our water supplies without so much as a public forum prior to it.

Politicians are there to represent the people that elected them not support a political party funded by power brokers and greed merchants..good on you Barnaby for having the balls to take this to the australian people and your peers..

Good luck you get my vote.

Merry Xmas to you all








# Ann Wilson
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:32 PM
To Gerard Mander:-
Let me take you to task with your use of the term UNELECTED.
So you have issues with Lord Moncton because you say he is unelected.
Well I have issues with the UN and the IPCC. They are UNELECTED BODIES who are attempting to chart the future course of the world.
They are BLATENTEDLY manipulating climate data and cherry picking data such that their analysis demonstrates man made global warming.
This is illegal, unethical and immoral.
Are you not aware of CLIMATEGATE and the leaked data from the Hadley Climate Research Unit proving this?
The whole global warming scam is being used to further advance the REAL COMMUNIST AGENDA, which is to redistribute the wealth of the world from the advanced nations to the underdeveloped nations.
If support for this ideal instead of support for DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM is not COMMUNISM I don't know what is!
Blind Freddy can see this, unless you have been blinded by the Church Of Al Gore.
# Ann Wilson
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:11 PM
When you’re a Righteous Climate Warrior, your financial interests are simply putting your money where your mouth is. When you’re an Evil Climate Denier, you’re in the pocket of vested interests. Got it now?
# John Burrows
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:46 PM
The US government has spent over $79 billion since 1989 on policies related to climate change, including science and technology research, administration, education campaigns, foreign aid, and tax breaks.

Carbon trading worldwide reached $126 billion in 2008. Banks are calling for more carbon-trading. And experts are predicting the carbon market will reach $2 - $10 trillion making carbon the largest single commodity traded.

Meanwhile in a distracting sideshow, Exxon-Mobil Corp is repeatedly attacked for paying a grand total of $23 million to skeptics—less than a thousandth of what the US government has put in, and less than one five-thousandth of the value of carbon trading in just the single year of 2008.
# John Burrows
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:48 PM
The ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) will be to the rudd government what workchoices was to Mr Howard's government!
It will be thier total demise!
# Sam Ferguson
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:02 PM
Hi there Gerard Mander , I do not live in the city or own a 4x4, but I do a lot of research of my own in many areas, real life and books and computers , check out BOB CARTER ,JAMES COOK UNI, AND IAN PLIMER & HIS BOOK ;HEAVEN AND EARTH & GLOBEL WARMING. YOU CAN GET THEM BOTH ON U-TUBE.HAPPY SEARCHING, SAM FERGUSON.
# John Burrows
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:51 AM
The ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) will be to the rudd government what workchoices was to Mr Howard's government!
It will be thier total demise!
# Richard marks
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:10 PM
Thanks for your deep and thoughtful analysis of the world and life, you guys give me comfort knowing that you really think about everything ......thank god we have ended gut driven politics and an era of considered response is here.......
# John Burrows
Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:13 AM
The ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) will be to the rudd government what workchoices was to Mr Howard's government!
It will be thier total demise!
# John Burrows
Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:01 PM
The ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) will be to the rudd government what workchoices was to Mr Howard's government!
It will be thier total demise!
# Eric
Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 PM
For the love of God and good Australian politics - don't ever consider, even in private,ever EVER going back to Workchoices. The 1996 Workplace Relations Act was Coalition Government legislation under Reith. It worked. Bring it back but nothing in Workchoices - at all!

I was a Liberal and a Unionist. I remained a Liberal and became a Union Secretary - much to the chargrin of many in the Labour movement. Then I was forced to negotiate a new deal for my members under Workchoices... I'm still a unionist, but not a Liberal. Before Workchoices 43% of my members voted Coalition. That number plummeted to 13% at the last election. Workchoices alone. I have NEVER, in 25 years in the Union movement, seen ANY issue come close in energising a campaign. Union members that don't even show up at meetings showed up to door knock in marginal electorates for God's sake! Don't touch it! Treat it like the tail of a tiger snake sticking out of a log.

Now that is off my chest, bloody well done on that stupidity called the CPRS. I found this site trying to get info about joining the Nats. I live in Eden Monaro. With regard to the above, I cvan tell you right now that the number of Union members that deserted Gary Nairn wasn't far short of the swing that unseated him. They can be brought back. I'd like to help.
# John Burrows
Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:43 PM
The choice is clear for the next election.

1 Oppression leading to communism or
2 freedom.

Chairman rudd and his labor party stand for option 1.

Keep the following in mind:-

a. His support for an enormous new tax on all Australians impacting on all aspects of their lives, based on a HOAX! ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System)

b. His censorship of criticism of his government by non labor party politicians.

c. His determination to censor internet content as is done in communist china, under the disguise of protecting Australians from pornography. The so called internet filter.

d. His determination to flood Australia with migrants from overseas, far in excess of what Australian can support or what Australians want.

e. His arrogance in IGNORING Peter Spenser, a farmer who is on a hunger strike up a pole for almost one month, protesting the fact that half of his farming property is locked up as a carbon offset for the Kyoto protocol, and has been provided with zero compensation for it. This man has been to court over 200 times without any satisfaction. Many, many other farmers around Australia are in the same situation! Where is the publicity? All Chairman rudd can say is that he will refer Peter to the federal police! What a charming caring fellow our Chairman rudd is! I bet he enjoyed a sumptuous Christmas meal, too bad about a starving Aussie with a just cause!

f. Failed promises on fuel watch. All spin doctoring.

g. Failed promises on grocery watch. All spin doctoring

h. Failed promises on Health. More spin doctoring.

i. Failed promises on providing PC's to schools. Even more spin doctoring.

j. National broadband network. This is a perfect mechanism to control the internet
within Australia. Centralized control instead of access via individual Internet Service Providers.

k. Chairman rudd’s devious and nefarious support for a world government by bleeding Australia and Australians dry with his ETS and then giving this money (BILLIONS OF DOLLARS) to the United Nations (an unelected body).
Too bad that Australia is desperately in need of fund to be spent on Health, Roads and other infrastructure. Obviously his minions are not important to him!
l. His censorship of the media and debate in Parliament with respect to the science fiction of man made global warming and his denigration and besmirching of the reputation of any party that dares question the authenticity of Al Gore's new climate religion. There has been blatant and deliberate censorship of the fact that an enormous volume of data has been released by a whistleblower from a major climate change research centre that demonstrates that climate data has been manipulated and falsified by scientists to PROVE man made global warming. Read about CLIMATEGATE on the internet. This has been a huge story overseas in the media. However, in Australia, barely a whisper!
# scio
Monday, December 28, 2009 8:06 AM
“Lord” Monckton should be respected as a learned scientist giving an unbiased review of an area of science within his area of expertise.

i.e. he “should” be if any of these were true ……which they are not (he is not even a Lord – although he “creatively” refers to himself as a "peer of the House of Lords" )

His scientific qualifications are a diploma in journalism studies and he was an advisor to the Thatcher government….. on the sale of council flats (he claims also to have been an advisor on “warship hydrodynamics” - amazing what a diploma in journalism studies qualifies you to do). He has also been an “immigration consultant” to some very interesting companies.


He is the senior policy advisor for the ‘SPPInstitute, , funded by ExxonMobil and alleges that climate change is a global communist conspiracy to impose a world government and he calls supporters of action on climate change Nazis & Hitler youth. His statements about climate change science reflect his scientific credentials – at best they are mistaken , at worst straight out lies & fabrications.


His comments on DDT show a remarkable combination of scientific illiteracy & outright lies & advocated construction of concentration camps for compulsory incarceration of all AIDS sufferers.

It is a sad reflection on our priorities that real scientists are ignored (can any of you deniers tell us the name of an actual climate scientist) whilst charlatans such as Monckton, Bolt , Jones etc set about engineering public opinion with pseudoscientific nonsense.
# Ann Smith
Monday, December 28, 2009 10:58 AM
This is another example of how arrorgant Chairman rudd's government is.

With respect to the ETS(Employment Termination cheme/Extra Tax System), anyone who does not agree with it is denigrated, rather than an intelligent debate entered into.
Now, here we have this internet censorship proposal. Obviously it will have far reaching consequences for freedom of speech. The child pornography angle is simply a ruse! Yet, all we hear when somebody wishes to voice an objection to it, is that they support child pornography! Just another way of attempting to silence debate and further the COMMUNIST AGENDA of Chairman rudd!

Have a read of this article:-

Press freedom body slams Conroy's filtering plan
by Stuart Corner
Wednesday, 23 December 2009

Reporters without Borders, a France-based organisation that, among other things, fights against censorship and laws that undermine press freedom, has written an open letter to Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, condemning communications minister Stephen Conroy's plan to introduce mandatory Internet filtering by ISPs.

In the letter the organisation says: "If Australia were to introduce systematic online content filtering, with a relatively broad definition of the content targeted, it would be joining an Internet censors club that includes such countries as China, Iran and Saudi Arabia.,

It claims that the plan, as proposed would violate the rule of law. "The decision to block access to an 'inappropriate' website would be taken not by a judge but by a government agency, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA). Such a procedure, without a court decision, does not satisfy the requirements of the rule of law. The ACMA classifies content secretly, compiling a website blacklist by means of unilateral and arbitrary administrative decision-making. Other procedures are being considered but none of them would involve a judge."

Reporters without Borders also says that the criteria the proposed law would use are too vague. "Filtering would be applied to all content considered 'inappropriate,' a very slippery term that could be interpreted very differently by different people. In all probability, filtering would target 'refused classification' (RC) sites, a category that is extremely controversial as it is being applied to content that is completely unrelated to efforts to combat child sex abuse and sexual violence, representing a dangerous censorship option. Subjects such as abortion, anorexia, aborigines and legislation on the sale of marijuana would all risk being filtered, as would media reports on these subjects."

The organisation also casts doubts on the claimed efficacy of the proposed filtering techniques and it further notes that "As regards paedophilia, the most dangerous places on the Internet are websites offering chat and email services. So if this project were taken to its logical conclusion, access to sites such as Gmail, Yahoo and Skype would also have to be blocked, which would of course be impossible."

Reporters without Borders calls for "A real national debate" on the subject but claims that Conroy "made such a debate very difficult by branding his critics as supporters of child pornography [thus] an opportunity was lost for stimulating a constructive exchange of ideas."

AUSTRALIA IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET FAST PEOPLE WITH THIS COMMUNIST LABOR GOVERNMENT!
# Bill Johnson
Monday, December 28, 2009 5:09 PM
“Climate Crusaders Conned in Copenhagen.”

Media Release

28th December 2009

A Statement by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia.

The Carbon Sense Coalition today called on the Australian Parliament to repudiate the Copenhagen giveaways promised by PM Rudd to the failed states of Africa and the welfare beggars of the islands.



The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that the three Climate Crusaders, Obama, Brown and Rudd, had been comprehensively conned in Copenhagen by African mendicants and fakers from the islands.

“They have agreed to hand over mega-bucks of our money (anywhere from $5 billion to $100 billion) as compensation for alleged damage caused by our production of carbon dioxide – the Africans citing climate damage and the islanders claiming rising sea levels.

“Even a cursory examination of the facts would prove that both of these claims are fraudulent.

“There is no evidence that carbon dioxide has caused global warming, or causes damage to any aspect of life on earth. The vast majority of earth’s warming originates from the sun, and fluctuations there are the major cause of climate changes.

“In addition, careful recent surveys show no unusual rising of sea levels.

“Moreover, all plant and animal life on earth benefit from industry’s production of carbon dioxide. Crops, grasses, forests and fruit trees are growing more profusely, the planet is becoming greener, and the oceans can produce more algae, more plankton and more life - all because of this free bounty of aerial plant food released whenever carbon fuels are burnt.

“Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant – it is a boon to all mankind. Africa and the islanders should pay us to release more valuable carbon dioxide, not the reverse.

“This giveaway is just a back door extension of the foreign aid program which has done so much harm to both donors and recipients.

“The vast majority of mendicant African nations have sterilised vast agricultural and mineral resources by their failed political systems. The foreign aid has mainly assisted their dictatorial governments to stay in power, harm their people and amass ill-gotten wealth.

“To increase the resources controlled by these dictators does nothing to improve the lot of their ordinary citizens.

“What they need is not welfare or climate compensation, but investment funds, low cost reliable energy, efficient infrastructure, sound currency, fair taxation and secure property rights.”

“Global Warming”

is just another term for

“Good Weather.”


Orson Scott, SF Author. (Many people in the Northern Hemisphere will now agree with this).


For the beneficial effects caused by carbon dioxide in the atmosphere see:

http://www.plantsneedco2.org/default.aspx/MenuItemID/103/MenuGroup/AboutUs/CO2IsGreenAndGood.htm


For the story on sea level lies see:

http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2009/03/dr-morner-on-sea-level-nonsense.html

To watch Christopher Monckton interview a Greenpeace spokesman in Copenhagen see:

http://www.breitbart.tv/lord-monckton-debates-greenpeace-activist-on-streets-of-copenhagen/

For a summary on some of the tactics used to manufacture a Climate Consensus see:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704398304574598230426037244.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

For a look at how global warming is affecting the Canadian Prairies see:

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/video.aspx?cp-documentid=cbcc2009-1312-2203-0030-135812388200,cbcc2009-1412-0726-0048-135836098700,cbcc2009-1412-0731-0033-135836355800


For a great story on how a coal powered steam train rescued passengers when the electric trains failed during the global warming snap in Britain see:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/25/steam-train-rescues-stranded-passengers-in-britain-where-electric-trains-failed/

# Bill Johnson
Monday, December 28, 2009 5:21 PM
The next time someone hits you with "the North Pole is melting" send them to this site. Even in the coolest summers there is only 10 feet of ice keeping the north pole freezing.

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/682.html
# jennifer
Monday, December 28, 2009 6:19 PM
Happy new Year Barnaby and all well wishers who visit here.
Let us hope for a better year, justice for Peter Spencer, the unravelling
of all the utter rubbish scaremongering by the warmers- can we start dealing with the really nasty pollutants all round us now? - unlike the imaginary ones
that are harmless. Unlock the carbon sinks that are costing our farmers a bundle all over the country,
Gore True Believers arent finished yet., according to Lord Monkton. Too much easy money to be made.
Monkton
““That is the one thing that they are definitely going to succeed in doing here and they will announce that as a victory in itself, and they will be right because that is the one and only single aim of this entire global warming conference, to establish the mechanism, the structure, and above all the funding for a world government.” the British politician, business consultant, policy adviser exclusively told the Alex Jones show yesterday.

“They are going to take from the western countries the very large financial resources required to do that.” Monckton said, adding “They will disguise it by saying they are setting up a $100 billion fund for adaptation to climate change in third world countries, but actually, this money will almost all be gobbled up by the international bureaucracy.”

“The first thing they will do, and the one thing I think they were always going to succeed in doing at this conference is to agree to establish what will be delicately called ‘the institutional framework’. Now that is a code word for world government.”

So why does everyone assume the fight's over?


# jennifer
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:09 AM
Whatever anyone feels about the way we generate electricity, the fact is that renewables just cant yet do it,,
No electricity means no computers, petrol pumps, trains, ATM's Banks and much more. Thanks to the efforts of the Greens, Britain is looking at a possible crisis in power generation in the future..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025586/FUEL-CRISIS-Forget-warnings-panic-pumps-Thanks-decades-government-neglect-Britain-set-lose-nearly-half-electricity-years.html

Not a happy picture .
# Bill Johnson
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:40 PM
The next time someone hits you with "the North Pole is melting" send them to this site. Even in the coolest summers there is only 10 feet of ice keeping the north pole freezing.

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/682.html
# Peter Forbs
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:55 PM
You have to laugh when the fanatical followers of the Church Of Al Gore criticize anybody, regardless of qualifications, who tells the truth about this global warming HOAX as pseudo scientists!
If it wasn't so serious, it would make a great skit for a comedy show!
Obviously their philosophy is OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!
Sound like COMMUNISM to me.
No free speech and freedom of opinion!
Funny how it is only 40 or so scientists of the IPCC sprout this drivel, yet there are over 30,000 scientists who have signed a petition denouncing man made global warming as a HOAX. Over 9,000 of these scientists have PHD's. http://www.petitionproject.org/
So all these professionals are idiots?
I don't think so!
Then, there is the issue of CLIMATEGATE.
Google it, and you will discover that a huge volume of data has been released from a climate research facility. This facility plays a major role in the decision making of the IPCC.
It shows that there has been fraudulent manipulation of climate data by scientists to show the FALSE conclusion that man made global warming is occurring.
This story is massive overseas in their media.
Funny how our main stream media has been largely quiet on the subject isn’t it!
Censorship of the media is very prevalent currently.
The ABC and SBS are particularly complicit in brainwashing the public with this global warming crap!
This whole man made global warming SCAM is simply a conspiracy to Defraud Taxpayers.
I’ll leave you all with some appropriate quotes:-

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire-French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)

And

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

THINK ABOUT THIS PEOPLE WHEN CHAIRMAN RUDD IS UP FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR.
# Alice Hobbs
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:02 PM
The eco communists have as their agenda the destruction of Capitalist free democratic countries such as Britain, Australian etc.
In Australia the FABIAN SOCIETY, a LEFT WING subversive group formed in 1947 is playing a role here.
Do some of your own research on them to see what I mean!
# scio
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:42 PM
Clean energy investment in China - for those liars who try to tell you China is doing nothing;

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/12/21/091221fa_fact_osnos
# John Whitehead
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:46 AM
Hello all.
I found this disturbing information on this(http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/11/a-federation-of-australian-republics/) web site.
It is certainly very alarming!


The Queensland Constitution 2001 / The Brigalow Corporation /
The Removal of all Ownership Rights in QLD.
——————————————————————————————————————–
1. Queensland Constitution 1867 was reframed with 114 Changes, 131 Additions and 116 Deletions.
2. January 1998, QLD National Party documented a move to place the QLD Governor in the Government as a Parliamentary Secretary under the QLD Constitution 1867.
3. This became official January 29 1999, the same day the QLD Constitution 1867 was reprinted.
4. Thus the Governor was no longer a sworn representative of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, but a Public Servant of the QLD Government.
5. He was still using the Public Seal of the State on behalf of the Premier and Parliament of QLD and maintained the appearance of the Governor to the Sovereign People of the State.
6. During the early 1990’s all important and relevant Acts were changed and framed, but were adjourned without a definite date of reprinting.
7. On 3 December 2001, the Queensland Consitution 2001 came into being.
8. On this day, this became the “Fundamental Law of QLD”.
9. 7 June 2001, all the framed Acts were reprinted and became law.
10. QLD then became, at the completion of these matters, without the assent of any of the laws by the Crown or Her Representative, an independent sovereign State and fractured the common law and the separation of powers in that state.
11. 15 July 2001, The Corporations (Q) Act 1990 (Q) Reprint No 3 created in QLD a Corporate Government. This is known as the Brigalow Corporation.
12. The State of Queensland Australia is registered with the US Securities and Exchange Commissions under No. 0001244818.
13. The Queensland Treasury Corp is registered under No. 0000852555.
14. All Crown land, assets and infrastructure on that land including schools, hospitals, roads, etc are subject to and responsible to the Ministers of the State of QLD as cited at Chapter III of the QLD Constitution 2001.
14. All Sovereign People are now persons under the Corporation, All persons are chattel ( a piece of property that is moveable).
15. Their land, bank accounts and all items of ownership are now assets under the Brigalow Corporation.
16. The Premier is now the Executive Leader of the Parliament of QLD.
17. All government tiers, including Local Council are now inside the Parliament of the State of QLD.
18. The public officials are not public officials of “the Crown” but public officials of “the State” of QLD.
19. The Common Law has been repealed from the Supreme Court Act 1995 (Q), Reprint No. 2, reprinted as in force 2 March 2001 © State of Q 2001
20. The Supreme Court, the District Courts and the Magistrate’s Courts are now inside the Parliament of the State of QLD, and as such must obey the QLD Constitution 2001.
21. The Australian Constitution, the Common Law & Equity, the High Court and the Federal Government no longer have any superior governance over the State of QLD.
22. The State of QLD and the Sovereign People of QLD have only Civil and Statute Law in this state.
23. As private ownership can not exist under Civil and Statute Law, all private equity and inheritance in the State is now the property of “the State”,
24. Under the civil law system, which is now subject to the Uniform Civil Procedures Rules of the Supreme Court Act 1991(Qld), every person is guilty until they prove their innocence.
25. There has been no Referendum of the Sovereign People to approve any of these moves. This means they are Ultra vires, an act beyond the powers or authority of the government.
26. Every State in Australia has begun its own “Legal Theft” of the ownership rights of the Australian People.
Only the People can protect the rights of themselves & their families and stop this.

Then a follow up post on the same web site from a “John Michelmore”:-
Just as a matter of interest (and relevant to this topic.)
I have today received a copy of a letter from the Office of the Premier Queensland Government. It reads as follows:-
“Thankyou for your email dated ———- concerning claims that the State of Queensland has been removed as a State of the Commonwealth of Australia and common law is no longer recognised in Queensland. I have been requested to reply to you on the Premier’s behalf.
The comments in your correspondence have been noted. As these claims are to be considered in a current application before the High Court of Australia, it is inappropriate for the premier to comment at this time.
Again, thank you for bringing your views to the Premier’s attention”
Yours sincerely
Stephen Beckett
Deputy Chief of Staff
I’ll leave you as readers to decide what this letter means.
# John Whitehead
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:48 AM
To "scio ":-
So if China is already working on "clean energy" why do you support Australia handing over BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to them?
# WESLEY DODT
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:11 PM
A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO U AND UR FAMILY.AS THE LAST BASTION REALLY OF GRASS ROOTS POLITICS,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP THE BASTARDS HONEST.
# Simon Larrescy
Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:16 AM
To that 'scio' give everyone your real name. Are you that gutless to hide. Looks like it. You act like a parasite on barnaby's blogs and i don't welcome your postings! what are you spying for? Go back to your mates?
Your 'pseudo'science talk hints that your got a drug problem. Get yourself to rehab. Your plight is off the mark. The real threat on today's world is 'Global Brain Warming'. Drug abuse rips the soul out the community and that should be your plight! but if your a user you won't see sense cause fried what sense you had.
# John Whitehead
Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:15 AM
French carbon tax deemed illegal | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.12.2009

France's Constitutional Council has struck down a carbon tax that was meant to take effect on January 1. The council, which is charged with ensuring the constitutionality of French legislation, said too many polluters were exempted in the measure and the tax burden was not fairly distributed.

It was estimated that 93 percent of industrial emissions, including the emissions of more than 1,000 of France's top polluting industrial sites, would be exempt from the tax, which would have charged 17 euros per ton of emitted carbon dioxide.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5069767,00.html
# Bill ODonnell
Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:52 AM
I put this up to show the truth of what is happening in the USA. You may ask what is this to do with us? My answer is that there are things happening here in good old oz that have incredible similarities the beg the question. What political scene do the two new leaders belong to and what is their plan for the countries the are head servants to.

Mr Barrack Obama and Mr K Rudd are both facing incredible lack of support from ground level in their countries. They have similar rises to fame, have similar policies believe it or not. Wake up Australia it is time to do something about it. Please read carefully what is happening in the USA especially the 2nd part which I have not posted, to get that part you need to make an effort to find out for your self by typing in the link at the bottom or do a search.

STATE OF THE REPUBLIC 2009
PART 1 of 2
By Marilyn M. Barnewall
December 30, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

This year of 2009 ends and 2010 begins. How did America do this year? I always like to write a year-end review. Since this has been a particularly dismal year economically and since this will be my last article for a few months, the following words are my way of saying “if you know this, you’ll know what to expect in 2010.”

“How did we do?” can best be answered by a multimedia presentation from the American Observer titled The Geography of a Recession. It takes less than two minutes to watch. If you really want a factual overview of America as of November 2009, watch it.

No matter how many times he claims everything is George Bush’s fault, Barack Obama was President of the United States for all but a few days of 2009. The lack of economic recovery is his. It’s true that he inherited problems – just as Bush inherited a recession from Bill Clinton. I’m not a fan of the neo-conservative (liberal lite) Bush, but he did a far better job with a sagging economy than the present White House occupant.

It is apparent no one understands how impossible is the concept of using debt to get out of debt. And, in my opinion, much of what has happened constitutes fraud. Some call it treason.

At the very least, it appears to me the law was violated by the administrations of both George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Writers often talk about what Congress and other federal officials – like the FDIC and the Comptroller of the Currency – have or have not done, how they violated the law. No precise law is ever cited, however. As we end the year, I cite one. I’m confident there are others.

TITLE 12, CHAPTER 16, §1831o. Do a search for it under The Prompt Corrective Action Law (PCA). Cornell University’s law school has a good overview online, too.

Our current Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, once said that he didn’t “have the power” to close down the big banks. Actually, both Geithner and former Treasury Secretary Henry (Hank) Paulson broke the law by not complying with Title 12, Chapter 16, §1831o.

Under 1831o (as in oh), it says:

“(3), Conservatorship, receivership or other action required

(A) In general

“The appropriate Federal banking agency shall, not later than 90 days after an insured depository institution becomes critically undercapitalized –

(i) appoint a receiver (or, with the concurrence of the Corporation, a conservator) for the institution; or,

(ii) take such other action as the agency determines, with the concurrence of the Corporation, would better achieve the purpose of this section, after documenting why the action would better achieve the purpose of this section.”

For nationally-chartered banks like Bank of America, Citibank, Chase Manhattan, Wells Fargo – the too big to jail guys that required TARP funds – the “appropriate federal banking agency” is the Comptroller of the Currency (which reports to Treasury). It is likely Treasury Secretary Geithner would respond to a question regarding his lack of attention to PCA by saying he chose alternative (ii). If so, that means he has, on file, dated within 90 days of the identified under-capitalization at BofA, Wells Fargo, Wachovia, etc., documented evidence why the action he and the FDIC and the Federal Reserve System took better achieved the purpose of this section of Title 12, Chapter 16, §1831o. In other words, under the law he had to document why a bailout better protected the American people from loss than bank closures. Such documentation would, however, have exposed a violation of the law.

Concern was raised about the lack of business experience among Obama’s Cabinet members when the appointments were made. Most of us were concerned about a Treasury Secretary who didn’t pay his own personal income taxes but was put in charge of making sure we paid ours. Maybe Congress thought it was playing a role in To Catch a Thief? Timothy Geithner is a poor little rich kid who has never been anything other than a bureaucrat – and not a very good one, at that.

In 2009, we had the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 ($152 billion estimated) signed by Bush on February 13, 2008. We all got our $300 or $600 checks in the mail. We were supposed to spend money and stimulate the economy. The government still hasn’t figured out that an unemployed populace doesn’t support a consumer/credit-driven economy.

Then we had TARP – a $700 billion revolving line of credit to the Treasury Department. Remember that a revolving credit line may be paid down, but there is always credit available up to $700 billion limit. It’s like your credit card. You pay it down each month, but you can always take it back up to the limit. This was not a one time loan, as most Americans appear to believe. George Bush signed TARP October 3, 2008.

TARP funds ($85 billion) were used to buy American International Group (AIG) out of trouble and they, in turn, bailed out Goldman Sachs and various other Wall Street and international investment banks that believe capitalism means them taking illogical (and illegal) risks and taxpayers paying for any and all losses. It’s called “fraud.”

Then Obama took his Oath of Office (twice, to make sure he got it right at least once) and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (AARA). A little over $750 billion in taxpayer debt was committed in February 2009. In March, Obama signed the Term Asset Lending Facility (TALF) created by the privately-owned Federal Reserve System and another $1 trillion debt was piled on the backs of American taxpayers.

There are other examples, but being a proponent of my own advice to not look at issues and to seek core problems, the above represent issues. What is the problem?

The problem is a lack of respect for the Rule of Law. A second core problem is the lack of respect and treasonous rejection of our Constitution. The Supremes can call it a “living document” all they want, but it doesn’t change the clearly stated, clearly defined limits placed on what government in America is permitted and not permitted to do. It is in black and white for anyone who can read.

One of the biggest concerns I have about Barack Obama and 2010 has to do with the advisors with whom he surrounds himself. His choices are a reflection of him – not just personally, but intellectually, morally and politically. The public may have elected the useful idiots that serve in Congress, but Obama chose his advisors.

I recently wrote an article quoting concerns expressed over Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood’s lack of business experience. His lack of business acumen was more than evident in the non-business plan he published in 2009 about high-speed rail. A few days ago, Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security said on Sunday that regarding Flight 253, airport security systems worked.

It was such a stupid statement, she admitted on Monday the system didn’t work. A system doesn’t work when someone boards an airplane with the explosives – and sets the aircraft afire in an attempt to ignite them. I’ve mentioned the education czar in previous articles – the one who thinks young women might raise their self-images by becoming prostitutes.

This is what your tax dollars supports! Wake up!

Lawrence H. Summers, Obama’s chief economic advisor served as President of Harvard University until 2006. While there, Summers approved a decision to use swaps to pay for to the university’s expansion. A Bloomberg headline last week said: “Harvard Swaps Are So Toxic Even Summers Won’t Explain.” Harvard had to agree to pay banks a total of almost $1 billion to terminate them.

Prior to taking his Oath of Office in July 1999 as Secretary of the Treasury, Larry Summers was Under Secretary for International Affairs and Deputy Secretary of the Treasury. He served as Chief Economist of the World Bank from 1991 to 1993. Before coming to Washington, Summers taught Political Economy at Harvard.

His background is very impressive, but his actions suggest a total lack of common sense – and a lack of business expertise.

Though I never forget that Paul Volcker is a founding member of the Trilateral Commission (as is Alan Greenspan), at least he understands how to play chess. He thinks three moves ahead. He understands if he takes one action, other actions will follow. Does Obama listen to Volcker? No.

He listens to Larry Summers who just caused Harvard to pay almost $1 billion to get out of lousy investments approved by him while he was Harvard’s President.

Intelligence is not wisdom and does not suggest good judgment. Those who lack wisdom seldom realize this truth and almost always lack common sense. Perhaps they confuse “shrewd” or “educated” with “wise.”

Following are the names of people who advise the President about health care, taxation, bank regulations, unemployment, economic stimulation, and a myriad of other things that impact each of our lives, daily:

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon E. Panetta Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel Director of National Economic Council Lawrence H. Summers Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson National Security Adviser James L. Jones Office of Management and Budget Director Peter R. Orszag Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates Secretary of Education Arne Duncan Secretary of Energy Steven Chu Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood Secretary of Treasury Timothy F. Geithner Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki United Nations Ambassador Susan E. Rice United States Trade Representative Ron Kirk White House Coordinator of Energy and Climate Policy Carol M. Browner White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs

As the French say, “C'est la vie.” That’s life. I don’t know how to say “That’s what we’re stuck with!” in French.

Here is a New Year prediction regarding the above-listed names. I went outside and stuck my finger in the air – easy to see which way the wind is blowing. The snow -- caused by global warming -- is falling in the direction the wind blows it. The wind whispered a 2010 secret: "Geithner is gone; Paul Volcker will return."

http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html

http://www.newswithviews.com/Barnewall/marilyn124.htm
# Hans Mason
Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:37 AM
Barnaby, Herr Rudd will spend $49 BILLION compensating 2.5 MILLION low income families. The maths are interesting! He'll borrow a bit more and who will be paying it all back?
ETS
HEINER AFFAIR
BRIGALOW CORPORATION
Oh, boy!!!
# John Whitehead
Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:53 AM
Hi all,
I have just sent the following message to Tony Abbott regarding the SICKENING TREATMENT of Peter Spencer and the stealing of his land WITHOUT COMPENSATION.


Good Morning,
We as patriotic Australians are vitally concerned by the disgusting treatment by government of the farmer on a hunger strike Peter Spencer, who has in effect had his farm STOLEN from him without any compensation
Tony, this is an opportunity for you to show what moral fibre you are made of and come out and vocally support this man's fight against this shameful and unjust situation which applies not only to him but to many many other farmers around Australia.
How can you as a Christian stay silent on this issue, or are you totally disinterested like Chairman Rudd (hopefully not!)?
# John Whitehead
Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:32 PM
Peter Spencer's Hunger Strike

All this man wants is JUSTICE for himself and other farmers who have been robbed of their land by the government and paid no compensation!

COMMUNISM pure and simple!

This is the web site to show your support for him:-

http://agmates.ning.com/group/peterspencerhungerstrike
# Annie McBride
Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:15 PM
"Thirty feet up on platform fixed to a wind tower, 60 mins drive from Canberra, a man of 61 years old -a father, a husband someone’s brother and a grandfather - is on a hunger strike in a last ditch attempt to bring attention to an injustice that may well be the lot of more landowners in the country, if something is not done sooner, rather than later.
There has been deafening silence from the moral majority with regard to what this man Peter Spencer has suffered over the last ten to twenty years. He is a landowner who makes his living from the land. However he is unable to use the land that is his livelihood. Imagine a plumber or an electrician or a doctor trained and given tools, but they are unable to utilise their skills or tools of trade.
That is what has happened to Peter Spencer. He has tried to redress the situation through the legal system and has failed against a inefficient and corrupted legal system. If you want to know the full story, go to a very good power point presentation about what is happening to the Peter Spencers of rural Australia. They are effectively being robbed of their means to make a living. It is a national disgrace and if they take away the landowners’ rights, think about who might be next? When the sheriffs knock on the door of Peter's family home, don't think it will stop there. Who is next and why is this being done? Is it simply about climate change or is there something more sinister happening here?

HAVE A LOOK AT THIS ALSO:-
http://www.sosnews.org/video/videofiles/peter-spencer.swf

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT HIS TREATMENT HAS BEEN BLOODY DISGUSTING!
# bob clenton
Thursday, December 31, 2009 5:17 PM
G'day Barnaby, it is truely great to know you are at least having a bit of a dig for the rights of your fellow Australians in particular that of the Peter Spencer debarcle. I have only recently become a member of AGMATES and am impressed with the way the site is managed and maintained. I have listened with interest to your interviews on the super raidio network and have caught the odd interview on the idiot box.

So keep up the slog Barnaby and help us keep the bastards honest.

I sincerely wish you and yours a healthy, happy and successful 2010 and look forward meeting you some day.

Regards

Bob Clenton



# Ross Turner
Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:20 PM
Thank you Barnaby for your efforts in 2009 in getting the "debate" back into Australian politics. We are off to a New Year get together with a lot better prospects for 2010 than I would have believed possible 6 months ago, mostly thanks to you.
MT was particularly disappointing in his views that the market system would solve the climate change challenge for lazy politicians - An ETS will cause another GFC – it is disappointing MT with his experience could not see it . He forgot that it is the government’s job to have the guts to make the big changes such us nuclear power. Pity Kevin has spent the bank and made that difficult - just make sure he keeps his grubby red hands off our super. It is scary how you can see the dangers of the US loans and Kevin cannot - keep hounding him for answers. I want the treasury to tell us taxpayers when to pull our money out of the market - not live in strawberry fields!
On the ABC radio there was comment about the lack of debate in parliament, where the ALP have managed to avoid answering questions and stifle the airing of any opposing views despite their many promises during the election. This has led to massive frustration amongst patriots of Australia who think Penny Wong and her massive department have a vested interest in stifling climate change debate so they can keep their high paying jobs. You see them popping up in blogs all the time, I suppose they don’t have any real work to do!
The only place debate is happening is in emails, blogs and opinion pages - so much so that here and overseas future directions of countries are being formed there instead of in parliaments. Ironic, but undeniable true especially after COP 15. Kevin runs the country by twitter...Perhaps some questions to find out how many questions raised in question time have been answered fully. - I am sure you know how many have, question time needs to be reclaimed - otherwise you would all be better off walking out every time a question is not answered and give it to the media instead - that would get more action than wasting your time getting lies and mud thrown at you.
# Annie McBride
Friday, January 01, 2010 7:11 AM
"Thirty feet up on platform fixed to a wind tower, 60 mins drive from Canberra, a man of 61 years old -a father, a husband someone’s brother and a grandfather - is on a hunger strike in a last ditch attempt to bring attention to an injustice that may well be the lot of more landowners in the country, if something is not done sooner, rather than later.
There has been deafening silence from the moral majority with regard to what this man Peter Spencer has suffered over the last ten to twenty years. He is a landowner who makes his living from the land. However he is unable to use the land that is his livelihood. Imagine a plumber or an electrician or a doctor trained and given tools, but they are unable to utilise their skills or tools of trade.
That is what has happened to Peter Spencer. He has tried to redress the situation through the legal system and has failed against a inefficient and corrupted legal system. If you want to know the full story, go to a very good power point presentation about what is happening to the Peter Spencers of rural Australia. They are effectively being robbed of their means to make a living. It is a national disgrace and if they take away the landowners’ rights, think about who might be next? When the sheriffs knock on the door of Peter's family home, don't think it will stop there. Who is next and why is this being done? Is it simply about climate change or is there something more sinister happening here?

HAVE A LOOK AT THIS ALSO:-
http://www.sosnews.org/video/videofiles/peter-spencer.swf

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT HIS TREATMENT HAS BEEN BLOODY DISGUSTING!
# Rhonda
Friday, January 01, 2010 7:21 AM
You must encourage the nsw national party to help and take on board Peter Spencer's arguments and help this man as we are ALL going to be a Peter Spencer and people just don't seem to see or know exactly what this labour party has in stall for our future! We are all going to be a Peter Spencer it's just a matter of time!
# Annie McBride
Friday, January 01, 2010 9:54 AM
This relates to the SHAMEFUL AND DISGUSTING TREATMENT OF PETER SPENCER.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
=================

It was developed at the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt, Germany, which was founded in 1923 and came to be known as the "Frankfurt School." It was a group of thinkers who pulled together to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia.

The problem? Why wasn't communism spreading?

Their answer? Because Western Civilization was in its way.

What was the problem with Western Civilization? Its belief in the individual, that an individual could develop valid ideas. At the root of communism was the theory that all valid ideas come from the effect of the social group of the masses. The individual is nothing.

And they believed that the only way for communism to advance was to help (or force, if necessary) Western Civilization to destroy itself. How to do that? Undermine its foundations by chipping away at the rights of those annoying individuals.

One way to do that? Change their speech and thought patterns by spreading the idea that vocalizing your beliefs is disrespectful to others and must be avoided to make up for past inequities and injustices.

And call it something that sounds positive: "Political Correctness."

Inspired by the brand new communist technique, Mao, in the 1930s, wrote an article on the "correct" handling of contradictions among the people. "Sensitive training" – sound familiar? – and speech codes were born.

In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Frankfurt School moved to New York City, where they continued their work by translating Marxism from economic to cultural terms using Sigmund Freud's psychological conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into Political Correctness. In 1941, they moved to California to spread their wings.

But Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.
# Annie McBride
Friday, January 01, 2010 10:38 AM
I have just found in my travels on the internet a document from the Baulken Hills Shire Council. It is their Environmental Management Plan. It mentions AGENDA 21 and the United Nations etc...
Have a look at this outrage on this website:-

http://www.thehills.nsw.gov.au/IgnitionSuite/uploads/docs/Environmental_Management_Plan(1).pdf

Another example of this insidious CARBON COMMUNISM!
# Joy Hogarth
Friday, January 01, 2010 4:19 PM
Please can't someone do SOMETHING about Chairman Rudd's soft border controls - I have just heard a radio news clip that yet another boatload of illegal immigrants has arrived. That makes it 62 boats so far arriving in Australia since Chairman Rudd began his tour of duty. The issue of border control, including illegal fishing boats in our waters, is of huge concern to me as an Australian citizen.

And consider this, for many illegal immigrants arriving on boats and are eventually given citizenship, there is the multiplier effect of family migration. Short circuiting the system at the expense of other genuine refugees who have to patiently wait their turn for years in some cases, is not fair.

I am proud to be Australian and I live in the best country in the world and that's the precise reason why everyone wants to live here as well. But, let's get real, we have this huge piece of arid land in the middle of the continent and we can't all live in the cities which are already bulging at the seams. Perhaps some form of moratorium, even on genuine immigration, should be considered until we are in a better position to cope with the growing numbers.

Also, if we continue with our current immigration policy, we are in danger of losing our national identity which is the main reason why everyone wants to come here, including much needed tourists.
# Francis Williams
Friday, January 01, 2010 8:07 PM
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ?
Let me see if you understand all this ……
If you cross the North Korean Border Illegally you get 12 years hard Labor.
If you cross the Iranian Border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan Border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian Border you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese Border Illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Cuban Border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.
If you cross the Australian Border illegally you get a job, a driver’s license, pension card, welfare, Credit Cards, subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house, free education and free health care.
NO WONDER THE BOATS KEEP COMING .
# Bill ODonnell
Friday, January 01, 2010 11:26 PM
Below is a section of Boulkon Shire councils enviromental plan in NSW.

Notice the words REQUIRED in the second paragraph and notice WHO'S principles and recommendations it is REQUiRED under.


Local Government is central to this process in providing a coordinating framework to harness the ideas and resources of the community. Under the Local Agenda 21 program,

Councils are required to prepare a local conservation strategy setting out a
regional blueprint to implement the principles and recommendations of the Rio Earth Summit

Since when does an elected local body government take orders from an Earth Summit Conference?

Wake up Australia and put a stop to these usurpers. How many more local councils and elected bodies are taking orders from overseas?
# scio
Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:42 AM
Annie McBride Friday, January 01, 2010 1:58 PM

Annie - it sounds like you have stopped taking your medication.

""Devotees of this new CARBON COMMUNISM are ANTI LIFE!""

You mean people like John Howard, The Queen, Rupert Murdoch, The Pope, The Archbishop of Canterbury????

"All living thing on Earth contain carbon and carbon dioxide is essential for the continuance of life on Earth. Even a basic High School science education will demonstate this.Carbon dioxide is used by plants to produce oxygen."


Sounds like you didnt attend high school. We hear continuously from the scientifically illiterate deniers nponsense such as ""Climate change will double food production because plants love CO2 , the “farmers friend”"


– most food crops such as wheat , maize, oats, new GM rice etc utilize C4 photosynthesis and are relatively unaffected by increased CO2 levels - however, weeds are not so effected - no doubt Tony Abbotts tea ladt, Sophie Mirabella will launch the “Liberal Party 1001 Recipes for Weeds” cookbook , prior to the next election, as their key policy for addressing cimate change.


# scio
Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:48 AM
Annie McBride Friday, January 01, 2010 1:58 PM

Annie - it sounds like you have stopped taking your medication.

""Devotees of this new CARBON COMMUNISM are ANTI LIFE!""

You mean people like John Howard, The Queen, Rupert Murdoch, The Pope, The Archbishop of Canterbury????

"All living thing on Earth contain carbon and carbon dioxide is essential for the continuance of life on Earth. Even a basic High School science education will demonstate this.Carbon dioxide is used by plants to produce oxygen."


Sounds like you didnt attend high school. We hear continuously from the scientifically illiterate deniers nponsense such as ""Climate change will double food production because plants love CO2 , the “farmers friend”"


– most food crops such as wheat , maize, oats, new GM rice etc utilize C4 photosynthesis and are relatively unaffected by increased CO2 levels - however, weeds are not so effected - no doubt Tony Abbotts tea ladt, Sophie Mirabella will launch the “Liberal Party 1001 Recipes for Weeds” cookbook , prior to the next election, as their key policy for addressing cimate change.


# scio
Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:55 AM
Annie McBride Friday, January 01, 2010 9:59 AM
"MORE EXAMPLES OF THESE CARBON COMMUNISTS AT WORK, THIS TIME FROM THE UNITED STATES."

Are you so obsessed with paranoid conspiracy theories that you can no longer understand reality ........ or are you just straight out dishonest, like most deniers?

Dont blame the cancellation of fireworks in San Diego on a global communist conspiracy - fireworks demostrations such as this require a special permit which the organisers did not bother getting, which required an evironmental assessment (you know : Chinese fireworks ending up in fishing areas....get the point???)

Funny how so many lazy/dishonest/incompetent businessmen like to blame others for their poor abilities....especially when they have gullible supporters like "Annie McBride"
# scio
Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:02 AM
John Whitehead Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:48 AM
To "scio ":-
""So if China is already working on "clean energy" why do you support Australia handing over BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to them? ""


Simple ;

(i) I DONT
(ii) They are not getting any
(iii) China advised they will do it all themselves & will not accept any such foreign funding



# Bill ODonnell
Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:55 AM
This is a 3 hour video. Please take the time to understand what is happening to Australia and why. This crosses ALL political lines and is a major concern to ALL Australians. I have no answers but we need men and women of courage to come up with some answers and it could cost you your life.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6441762576271629374#docid=-515319560256183936
# JJ
Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:23 PM



Barnaby,

My comment relates to the full body scanners Australian airports are about to introduce. As an Australian and a human being I strongly object to have to undergo ionic radiation each and every time I board a plane. I will refuse to be scanned by these grossly invasive whole body x-rays as will many others for both privacy and health reasons.

"... Ionizing radiation in the X-ray spectrum damages and mutates both chromosomal DNA and structural proteins in human cells. If this damage is not repaired, it can lead to cancer. New research shows that even very low doses of X-ray can delay or prevent cellular repair of damaged DNA, raising questions about the safety of routine medical X-rays. Unborn babies can become grotesquely disfigured if their mothers are irradiated during pregnancy. Heavily X- rayed persons of childbearing age can sustain chromosomal damage, endangering offspring. Radiation damage is cumulative and each successive dose builds upon the cellular mutation caused by the last. It can take years for radiation damage to manifest pathology.

A leading U.S. expert on the biological effects of X-radiation is Dr. John Gofman, Professor Emeritus of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of California, Berkeley. Dr. Gofman’s exhaustive research leads him to conclude that there is NO SAFE DOSE-LEVEL of ionizing radiation. His studies indicate that radiation from medical diagnostics and treatment is a causal co-factor in 50 percent of America’s cancers and 60 percent of our ischemic (blood flow blockage) heart disease. He stresses that the frequency with which Americans are medically X-rayed “makes for a significant radiological impact.”

This highly credentialed nuclear physicist states: “The fact, that X-ray doses are so seldom measured, reflects the false assumption that doses do not matter…[but] they do matter enormously. And each bit of additional dose matters, because any X-ray photon may be the one which sets in motion the high-speed, high energy electron which causes a carcinogenic or atherogenic [smooth muscle] mutation. Such mutations rarely disappear. The higher their accumulated number in a population, the higher will be the population’s mortality rates from radiation-induced cancer and ischemic heart disease.”

A report in the British medical journal Lancet noted that after breast mammograms were introduced in 1983, the incidence of ductal carcinoma (12 percent of breast cancer) increased by 328 percent, of which 200 percent was due to the use of mammography itself. A Lawrence Berkeley National Lab study has demonstrated that breast tissue is extremely susceptible to radiation-induced cancer, confirming warnings by numerous experts that mammograms can initiate the very cancers they may later identify. Dr. Gofman believes that medical radiation is a co-factor in 75 percent of breast cancer cases. So why would girls and women want their breast tissues irradiated every time they take a commercial flight?

Dr. Gofman says X- radiation has the effect of “grenades and small bombs” on human cells...."

Terra (THz) rays are 1000's of times stronger than cell phone waves and hundreds of times more than your average x-ray. These rays split and cause bubbles in the DNA cell. Want cancer?

BARNABY - WILL YOU SUBJECT YOURSELF TO POTENTIAL CANCER INDUCING RADIATION EACH TIME YOU FLY?


# JJ
Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:31 PM



Barnaby, it's time to start addressing the downright nefarious underlying issues relating to the UN. Copenhagen is the tip of the iceberg. What about codex alimentarius?

The UN is evil and corrupt and Australians are now waking up to the fact that many of our bizarre laws and regulations are due to UN treaties.
AUSTRALIA OUT OF THE UN NOW !

In 1975 the UN wanted (and got) agreements form member states to ensure 25% of all manufacturing and farming would go to third world countries to supposedly help them catch up with developing nations. We signed up to that crap ( Lima Declaration – USA and others also agreed) and we lost big time as our manufacturing and farming sectors got decimated.

Doesn’t it seem crazy that, last month in Copenhagen, the same UN was wanting a tax paid by “1st world” nations to compensate 3rd world countries so they WOULDn’t industrialize?

Australia is signatory to many hundreds of international treaties, thus ceding Australian sovereignty to foreign powers.

The most significant “treaty” is in fact a declaration called the UN Lima Declaration, being a declaration it does not require a signature or ratification, it did not even require to come before parliament to be approved, and yet this agreement totally controls our international trade and our domestic industry, it totally and absolutely controls Australian economic policy via a treaty nested within a treaty, the insidious Lima Declaration actually introduced the New International Economic Order or NIEO to Australia, I consider the NIEO to be the most secretive treaty to be foisted upon the unsuspecting Australian people.

These international treaties can and are introduced into Australian law without the scrutiny of parliament, the Lima Declaration was an example of this treacherous method of treaty making, Senator D.R. Willessee of the Whitlam government pledged Australian support at Lima, Peru in 1975.

BARNABY, WHEN WILL YOU ADDRESS THE OTHER UN TREATIES THAT ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY AND REMOVING OUR FREEDOMS ????


# Anne Turner
Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:35 PM
To all bloggers out there who think Tony Abbott is interested in Peter Spencer, be advised that I attempted to raise the issue with him on Daily Telegraph live blog twice on Friday - no response. I then emailed his office & do not expect to receive a response.

We can only hope that Senator Joyce DOES something. This situation is disgraceful & typifies Labor - always has and always will.
Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:44 PM
Disgusting is too mild a word for what is being done to our farmers
It's treasonous , Magna Carta is supposed to be for all time.
& when did we last have a referendum , excepting for a republic or to
ask people to accept the dismissal of trial by jury , Sensibly the public rejected that. So it was done by stealth probably in the dead of night when all hard working people are in bed. Major decisions are supposed to go to Referendum . Canberra in the main only listens to their overseas Masters as do the banks ,who also rule our Courts , It's virtually impossible to get justice , I really feel for Peter , We now have a Dictator ship & there in lies our whole problem .
In our country as Peter found out , many of the legal profession , dance to the same tune as our illustrious Government who by the way according to our Constitution are really to be known as " The Administrators " are supposed to be there to Administer the law as in our Constitution & the wishes of the people .they gave themselves the lofty title of Government .
I know there are a few decent people in Parliament such as yourself ,
& thank you for exposing the despicable actions of those others .
you know You realise you won't be the flavour of the month for speaking out i don't think that bothers you somehow
But thank goodness some-one did . , Good luck to you & your family & please Keep up the good work .
You tell 'em Barnaby
# Francis Williams
Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:44 PM
RTA Inspectors Instructed to Harrass COOEE Drive Buses
===================================

Buses which were being organized on support of Peter Spencer have had to be cancelled due to HARASSMENT BY THE RTA.
This is COMMUNISM, PURE AND SIMPLE!
Obviously they are complicit in this injustice!
It's BLOODY DISGUSTING and makes you ashamed to be an Australian!
It feels more like the old USSR!
Have a read of this story.
"RTA Inspectors Instructed to Harass COOEE Drive Buses"
http://agmates.ning.com/group/peterspencerhungerstrike/forum/topics/rta-inspectors-instructed-to
# Gene McIntyre
Monday, January 04, 2010 11:49 AM
Hi Barneby,
I brought 200 acres of land, near Baffle Creek in Oct, 2007 there was about 35% white zone. After the government moritorium and the new Zoning we have about 2 acres not % but 2 acres, now what value is 2 acres to try and make some sort of living off. I am a carer for my disabled kids and the doctors said move out into the country will be better for them, so we paid $350,000 for the land. How much is 2 acres going to now produce, The land police can come onto your property, prosecute you if you are seen to be clearing. If I understand them right anything above 150 sq m is clearing.

Under Australian law what is free hold I thought free hold means it is yours to do with in accordance with the zoning scheeme you are under. No it means that you can pay toi keep the weeds down but not be able to do anything else no rite of use.
Ok I thought well at least i should be able to sell the carbon sink from the property bring in a few bob. But again No unless it was cleared land prior to 1990 and you do a planting it all belongs to the government.

So let me put this into perspective:-
1. Government sells land to people (50 years 100 years ago doesn't matter. Fair enought you own the land you have a right to sell it.
2. Under town planing say what you can and cant do on it. Ok can except that not always fair but ok.
3. Now tell yo you cant do anything on the land but let it become wooded so the government can then sell the carbon offset. HANGON YOU HAVE ALREADY SOLD ME THE LAND YOU DINT WANT IT YOU SOLD IT.

IF i SOLD YOU A CAR AND SAID OK IS YOUR CAR YOU ARE TO MAINTAIN IT, PAY FOR THE REPAIRS BUT YOU CAN'T USE IT ONLY I CAN WHEN I WANT, BUT I WILL USE YOUR CAR AS A TAXI WHEN EVER I WANT DOES THAT SOUND FAIR OR JUST.

We are all Australians ( It would appear some more so that others) yes some are having there very lively hoods confiscated from them because that is what it is, but being smart realising if you put it in your name you have to pay us compensation for it so we will let you have a house and 5 acres the rest can stay in your name so we dont have to pay but we will take control of it OWNERSHIP BY STEALTY AND DISCEPTION.

Welcome to the new Australia, everything our forefathers fought and died for gone. I am and proud to say 4th generation on all sides yet I have less rites and help than someone who sails a boat to our shores and demands we feed them, cloth them and take care of them, all the while telling us we have no culture and should embrace there's.

Welcome to the new Australia would our forefathers have given there lives for the way australians are being treated now I wonder.

Gene McIntyre
# Bill ODonnell
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:54 AM
When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn? As the song goes. Come on Australia lets teach them a lesson in honest government and honest policies that will be for the betterment of ALL Australia. Why do we put the same ( professional politicians ) back into govern US again and again. It matters NOT what persuasion they claim to be, are they who we want the government to be or do they govern in their own interest ONLY and ALWAYS. How much evidence do we need before we declare them ALL guilty? WE THE PEOPLE.

http://www.sosnews.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=8&cntnt01returnid=65

http://www.sosnews.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=4&cntnt01returnid=65

http://www.rightsandwrong.com.au/

http://www.sosnews.org/index.php?page=Letter-To-PM

I present everyone who reads at this blog and opportunity to do something about this below. We CAN as Mr AKA Obama says.

http://goooh.com/Home.aspx

If anyone is really interested in DOING not just whinging please say so on this blog and I will gladly do all within my ability to contact you and start the ball rolling. Honest politicians such as Barnaby or any other individual politician will have nothing to fear from something such as this.
# Clem Eddy
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:10 AM
In Courier Mail, 4 Jan. 2010. Mr Krudd will focus on Hospitals and Schools this year.??? I have copies of HIS ads in local papers here at Tweed Heads. (Nov. 2007.) Quote, " I'll take responsibility for fixing our hospital system"
And of course his promise to fix "Education Systems" All kids to have a computer. WELL. don't hold your breath, WHY,??? The little nerd is NEVER home. Quote yesterday," He's very clever, speaks Mandarin. But so do millions of kids in China." Get him OUT. PLEASE. Clem Eddy
Conservative voter for about 60 years. (And no cracks.)
# Francis Williams
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:14 PM
RTA Inspectors Instructed to Harrass COOEE Drive Buses
===================================

Buses which were being organized on support of Peter Spencer have had to be cancelled due to HARASSMENT BY THE RTA.
This is COMMUNISM, PURE AND SIMPLE!
Obviously they are complicit in this injustice!
It's BLOODY DISGUSTING and makes you ashamed to be an Australian!
It feels more like the old USSR!
Have a read of this story.
"RTA Inspectors Instructed to Harass COOEE Drive Buses"
http://agmates.ning.com/group/peterspencerhungerstrike/forum/topics/rta-inspectors-instructed-to
# John Bonshaw
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:59 AM
Yes, Chairman Rudd speaks MANDARINE, it's a pity that ENGLISH is not his first language otherwise he would understand the problems that Australians face, such as the SHAMEFUL treatment that Peter Spencer has been subjected to!
# John Bonshaw
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:34 PM
Yes, Chairman Rudd speaks MANDARINE, it's a pity that ENGLISH is not his first language otherwise he would understand the problems that Australians face, such as the SHAMEFUL treatment that Peter Spencer has been subjected to!
# John Bonshaw
Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:21 AM
PETER SPENCER HUNGER PROTEST

Over the past decade we have seen many images of asylum seekers in detention centres campaigning via hunger strike to get into Australia.

But one farmer in NSW is now on the 45th day of his own hunger strike - in a self-imposed prison 10 metres above the ground because he feels farmers have been sold up the river by environmental legislation.

As a part of Australia's commitment to protect native vegetation and to reduce carbon emissions under the Kyoto protocol, Peter Spencer and thousands of farmers like him, have been subjected to a government imposed ban on land clearing.

The saved trees are natural carbon sinks worth an estimated $10.8 billion to the government in reduced carbon emissions, should Kevin Rudd's emissions trading scheme go ahead. But the farmers, who can no longer develop this land have received no compensation.

"They're welcome to take my land but the constitution says they have to pay," Peter said.

"I just keep going, keep going, I just keep going. They've got the wrong person if they think I'll walk away."

Peter's hunger strike has galvanised the farming community.

On Monday hundreds of supporters gathered at parliament house and at Peter's property in the Southern Highlands to force the government to meet Peter's demands that farmers be justly compensated for what they describe as the insidious, deceitful theft of their land.

Alistair McRobert, a farming friend and supporter of Peter Spencer, says Kevin Rudd's office is reluctant to respond to Peter's protest.

"The only response from the PM's office is, he has said that the government does not take any notice of people taking massive protests, as in hunger strikes or threatening the government. They say, 'we make laws, rules and policy in the national interest, and Peter Spencer needs to come down from there and get medical attention and go to the courts to get remedy'," McRobert said.

Should the government make policy on the basis of one man's stand?

Is the government right to see Peter's stance in this light? Should the government be more sensitive to farmers demanding compensation?
Says Peter: "Mr Rudd, how dare you tell me that you'll just carry on breaching the constitution when I've followed every path known, I wrote to you two years ago and said, 'don't throw that excuse up to me in 2 years time' - I knew he would pass the buck. How dare you work outside the constitution, wake up to yourself. It's just not on. I'm not here to try and threaten you, I'm trying to get this country back on track."

Peter King is Peter Spencer's barrister. Before any hunger strike, the two Peters spent years fighting for compensation in the courts - to no avail.

"It's my opinion, and I've offered that in support of Peter Spencer's case, that it is unconstitutional for this reason. That there has been an acquisition of his land and that's now been acknowledged by the lower courts, that there's been a benefit to the Commonwealth, both in terms of an interest in his land and in terms of financial outcomes. And it hasn't been paid for. Now in our country, under our constitution, the notion that we have, that is fundamental to our democracy, is that nobody loses his or her or its land unless it's been paid for," Peter King said.

"What the Commonwealth did, before I came into the case, was to move to have it dismissed as being, as there being no case. I came into the case and we repeated the matter and the judge held that there was a case but then the Commonwealth moved in March of 2008, interestingly enough, shortly after the Kyoto Protocol commenced in operation in Australia, to have the whole case dismissed under a discretionary power that judges have in the Federal Court. And so that was to prevent the case from going to a hearing," Peter Spencer said.

Ignoring a man on a hunger strike is politically very dangerous for Rudd, especially when, at the same time he is seen writing kids books, commentating the cricket and lunching with the cricketers. But meeting the farmers and accepting their demands carry their own set of dangers.

"So what I'm saying is, Australia's facing penalties in excess of $100 billion to the UNFCCC," Alistair McRobert said.

The UNFCCC is the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. If Kevin Rudd were to allow Peter and other farmers to re-commence land clearing now, they would likely not meet their carbon reduction targets and therefore face massive fines. As the friend of the chair in Copenhagen, Kevin Rudd would also have a little egg on his international face.

Best selling author, anthropologist and environmental activist Diane Bell is sympathetic to the farmers' quest for compensation for their lost land - but strongly disagrees with any push to allow further clearing.

"I think with carbon emissions there's going to be benefits and burdens and how we distribute those is the role of government to come up with policies that are transparent and open and equitable and of course there are going to be some winners and losers."
"At some point in Australia, we have to say, our practices have been unsustainable. The land is salting up, we have tried to force agricultural practices in some areas which are just unsustainable. And that's going to be a very brave government that bites the bullet and makes those decisions," Diane adds.

The Labor Government aren't the only ones feeling heat over the hunger strike.

To some farmers, Bill Heffernan represents the former Howard government and it's role in implementing the legislation which they say has locked them from their land.

The farmers are furious because the energy sector has been massively compensated during a time that their carbon emissions have risen, and at the same time agricultural emissions have reduced, but farmers say they haven't received a cent and they believe this is the thin edge of the wedge.

Peter has lost 40 kilograms and the indignities of a hunger strike are many. He must urinate out a tube and deal with severe constipation.

"It's a hard job to keep clean, and I stink, I want a good wash, I want a good s**t and I want a good feed," Peter said.
# John Bonshaw
Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:08 AM
Hi All,

Have a look at this interesting web site.
It's called CLIMATE DEPOT and has a huge amount of information which disputes so called global warming. Apparently there have been record cold temperatures around the world!

http://climatedepot.com/

Cheers
# John Bonshaw
Friday, January 08, 2010 7:01 AM
LABOR'S ASSOCIATION WITH THE FABIAN SOCIETY

This is a very interesting and informative web site.
A must read!

http://www.australiamatters.com/fabian.html
# John Bonshaw
Friday, January 08, 2010 7:11 AM
New acronym
FART:-
Fight Against Rudd's Tyranny
# John Bonshaw
Friday, January 08, 2010 1:04 PM
LABOR'S ASSOCIATION WITH THE FABIAN SOCIETY

This is a very interesting and informative web site.
A must read!

http://www.australiamatters.com/fabian.html
# Lynette
Monday, January 11, 2010 10:14 AM
Please do not believe everything you read on the Internet about the Brigalow Corporation. If you Google Brigalow Corporation, you will find a lot of conspiracy theory websites, plus a number that are the official record of what the Brigalow Corporation really is.

It was established in 1992 to replace the Corporation of the Land Administration Commission to administer the last of the Brigalow Scheme Development Leases. The Brigalow Scheme was established in the 1960s with federal government funding to open up for closer settlement the Brigalow Belt land in central Queensland.

By 2000 all of the loans had been repaid and the Brigalow Corporation was no longer required. it was removed from the Land Act 1994 in 2009.

So sleep easy everyone - the conspiracy is over. The Brigalow Corporation did not take over all of the land in Queensland. Everyone still owns their land and is able to do what they like with it, subject to the various rules and regulations about land development.

I have also read several of Peter Spencer's court case rulings. While I feel sorry for him that he can no longer clear his trees, that is now the law.
# Norm Devisser
Friday, March 26, 2010 7:56 PM
Keep going Barnaby the Country needs men of you calibre one day when the spin comes off even those on the other side will recognise your contribution.

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